19.5/22.5 discussion

RufusTheRam

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anyone own, looked into, or otherwise have any useful information on using larger medium/heavy duty rims and tires? advantages/disadvantages, price, places to buy, etc.

my dually is about due for all 6 tires, and i'm considering going this route. mainly because i like the look, but also alot for the tire life and strength. i do ALOT of in town driving, which is pretty harsh on "normal" tires in a truck that tips the scales somewhere around 12k 24/7.

anyway, i haven't seen this topic come up around here so i figured i'd start it.
 
ROTATING MASS< ---- and a lot of it, those wheels and tires are HEAVY even with aluminum wheels. your brakes will be screaming from the added weight.

a brake upgrade is STRONGLY suggested.
 
I'm interested my dually tows the majority miles. I would have a hard time justifying the additional cost of adapters etc..I've never checked into pricing though, so who knows maybe it's not godawful. They do look pretty badass on duallys.
 
ROTATING MASS< ---- and a lot of it, those wheels and tires are HEAVY even with aluminum wheels. your brakes will be screaming from the added weight.

a brake upgrade is STRONGLY suggested.
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very good point... forgot to mention i'll be doing a brake upgrade regardless, even if i retain the stock wheels. i have the infamous magically warping super duty rotors, which is magnified with all the stop/go driving i do. i'm doing the cryo treated powerslots w/ hawk pads (front only, possibly just a pad upgrade in the rear when they come due).
I'm interested my dually tows the majority miles. I would have a hard time justifying the additional cost of adapters etc..I've never checked into pricing though, so who knows maybe it's not godawful. They do look pretty badass on duallys.
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yep, i can see in mostly towing situation they wouldn't provide much in the functional department, unless you're putting some serious weight on them. the ridiculous tread wear would be an advantage too, but doubtful enough of one to justify the additional cost. in my limited research so far, reconditioned wheels can be had for decent prices. the added cost of adapters is certainly a turn off for the 22.5's, but not an issue with 19.5's.
 
My brother had this setup on his 97 Dodge 2500 SRW... they worked great while towing... but not towing they rode hard and during the wet days & not towing them tires would spin just looking at them...
 
Your ball joints are going to HATE you, as will your back.

They do look VERY badass, but are not worth the tradeoffs IMO.
 
Your ball joints are going to HATE you, as will your back.
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i considered the balljoint issue, but i haven't looked up any weights. are they that much worse than say a set of 36-38's on steel wheels?

i'm not concerned about the weight in installing them... it's just a one time deal. any rotations will have to be done at a shop since the kits i've found all come with basic steel wheels for the inside rear. even if i had a matching set i could do myself, i wouldn't be worried about it. my back is already abused day in and say out:flipoff2:
 
Probably no worse, but you've got alot of weight on those ball joints with a diesel truck that you probably wouldn't have on something running 38's...
 
i got 19.5s on the toter, they are big and heavy. radial sidewalls, cost $200 ish each, but last long long time, major weight capacity.. ie saftey margin. Ya a shimmy with these could do some damage
 
i'd assume you've got the parts to support the extra weight, etc. though.

just for comparisons sake, just how beefy are older brakes, balljoints, steering, etc. on older medium/heavy duty trucks compared to modern light duty trucks (such as your ex u-haul)? considering the difference in curb weight also.
 
BIGWOODY said:
I've never checked into pricing though, so who knows maybe it's not godawful. They do look pretty badass on duallys.
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I checked into them recently when I was looking at a new dually. $4400 for everything needed to run the 22.5s. If you wanted lugs, it was $400 more. Really, I didn't think that was too bad. A friend of mine is only getting around 10,000 mi on his dually work truck, for him it would definitely be worth it if he could get the mileage people say they are getting out of the 22.5s.

If I had bought the dually, it'd be running 22.5s.
 
I get new 22.5 acccuride wheels for the semis at the shop for about $260 each plus tax.
If someone wants to run the steel wheels let me know. I know where to get some used ones.

Max Load is 7390 per wheel on the new aluminum.

We run some of the 19.5 wheels on our low deck trailers. The 19.5 tires are rated for a lot less weight and should ride beter then the 22.5 tires. But now that alot of the F-450 and 550's are running 19.5's it can be a little hard to find a spare tire on the side of the road so you should carry a spare. WE DO after learning the hard way.



Sam(slim)
 
And on the 19.5's Heaven forbid you ever blow one on the road, they are a pain the arse to find. Sorry to steal any thunder Sambo, but it sucks = and I have tried to find these, if you are going to spend the jack get the 22.5's. You will not regret it. 295 75R 22.5's are your friend on the side of the road. Or if you are talking about Michelins, 275 80R 22.5's. Sambo, wouldn't it be the shit to find someone running the X1's - super single rears, but they are even harder to find....
 
no adapters needed with these, just bolt on:

http://www.ricksontruck.com/

I have two buddies out west that run 19.5s on their duallys, get over twice the mileage out of the tires, but best is added safety factor with the load rating for the tires. They pull very heavy loads and wanted the added safety factor. Plus they look awesome.

They both said they have had hardly any flats sense switching over.

Shannon
 
ruf - the u-haul is an '89 international lo-pro chassis. Front and rear disks are both 16"x 1.5" vented. Im not sure what newer light duty trucks are using..

If your properly rated you shouldn't be blowing truck tires.. (minus low air and road debries) At max vehicle GVRW my rear tires are well under half max load capacity and fronts much less. That in mind I think (1) 19.5" spare would be plenty.

RDDC - Im not sure why you say they are scarce on the road ? They are a common med. truck tire. These aren't the old 17.5" RV tires..
 
hscrugby said:
Come on.
Go for the pimp stars :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM8sA-zN4zw&mode=related&search=
you know you want them. :)
More seriously, if you are towing most of the time, I think it might be worth it. But the ride would be real harsh if you weren't towing or very loaded down.
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I couldn't believe it when I saw how rediculous they were. I thought this was some crazy cropping of the image but I did the google search and here is what I found. Check out the price.
http://www.customwheel.com/custom_wheels/product_info.php/products_id/1687
 
What we found on the road is you pay way to much for a junk tire when you find it. They know when you have a flat and no spare that they have you by the balls.

Sam(slim)
 
we sell 19.5 22.5 24.5, we just sold a set of 6 AL with tires to a guy for his 06 mega cab, the tires are rated for 200k, but we'll see. i like the look, but the ride trade off vs. money spent is a hard to swallow
 
Old thread, but i just put new Mich. lug treads on my F-450 (19.5), $340 a tire but was told to expect 90k-100k miles out of them.
Best pic i got.:rolleyes:
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Oh the damage is from crossing the creek on Trail 5 at Tellico. They are putting in a new bridge and the new trail is a little tight for my 186"wb, but i wasn't going to carry the fire wood by hand.
 
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