94 grand cherokee

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can anyone help me with more name brands for lifts for the ZJ? looking for 4-6 inch but not too expensive. maybe 4+2" spacers?
 
look over on the ZJ boards such as mallcrawlin.com and nagca.com, tons of info... but the F>R swap is a pretty cheap lift.... no matter what, going that high you will need new control arms, trackbar, shocks, brake lines, swaybar links, etc. & that is where the cost comes in...
 
userbmx1315 said:
can anyone help me with more name brands for lifts for the ZJ? looking for 4-6 inch but not too expensive. maybe 4+2" spacers?
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4" + 2" spacers = 6" of lift not a very good idea on a ZJ with short arms.
the front>rear swap is easy and cheap it will get you 3-4" of lift depending on your current springs and the front ones you order. Order 4" front spring and swap your rear springs with the original front springs and you just performed a f>r swap but you will still need longer shocks and possibly adjustable track bars I wouldn't recommend relocation brackets for them if you plan on wheeling it. That is the route I'm taking with my 96 ZJ but I'm also going to install longer upper and lower arms on the front, rear I already have after market control arms.
 
ive got 4" springs with 2" spacers, I dont do anything hardcore, its been to ure a couple of times and to some local private spots, more mud slinging than rock crawling but its served me well. Mine was pieced together, mixture of rustys, jks, teraflex, RE. Also running short arms, have the front long arms, just havent got around to installing them.
 
i'm an XJ guy and my buddy is getting a ZJ so its a little new to me with the rear.
never herd of the f>r swap tho. whats the ride like? spring rates close? so the f>r give aprx 4" of lift? he wants to run 35s. i know the POS D35 wont hold that good but he'll ride it till it breaks. its got the 242 tcase. is there only a hack n tap out for those?
 
The f>r is one the most popular way to lift a ZJ for more than 3". The ride quality is not bad, but any lift over 3" on a ZJ with short arms makes the ride much worse. Running 35s on a short arm lift is going to be a feat. 33s on a short arm lift is usally about max, and the d35 is going to be pushed with just 33s. to run 35s you are going to need a minimum of 4" and then you are still going to have to cut the fenders, especially behind the rear doors. The 242 is a good tcase, so he should have no problems there.

x2 on searching mallcrawlin.com and nagca.com for some good ideas.
 
BigClay said:
The ride quality is not bad, but any lift over 3" on a ZJ with short arms makes the ride much worse. ideas.
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I agree with everything you said but this. My jeep still rides fine with my lift setup and short arms. It doesnt ride near as rough as my old XJ did with the 3" rough country lift and 31" ATs. Not saying my jeep rides like a caddy or anything, but I definately wouldnt say it rides like crap.
 
Tom Woods had a SYE for the 242 but then they were back ordered when I was going to order mine so I have a RE hack and tap, I don't have any problems with it.

You can run 6" of lift on short arms but the ride quality suffers much more, also the upper control arm mounts crack easier on them compared to a XJ. Plus the amount the rear axle moves forward limits tire size as you can only cut so much off the body before you are into the pinch seam.
 
93redzj said:
I agree with everything you said but this. My jeep still rides fine with my lift setup and short arms. It doesnt ride near as rough as my old XJ did with the 3" rough country lift and 31" ATs. Not saying my jeep rides like a caddy or anything, but I definately wouldnt say it rides like crap.
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I agree that the ride is not crap, at 3.5" my ZJ still handles the road fine, I was just saying that if you want stock ride feel, long arms are the only way to do that with larger than 31" tires
 
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