Any plumbing recommendations?

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I have an older house that still has some (not all) polybutylene pipes that I'd like to get replaced.

Anyone here on the board have a recommendation for someone to do the work?

Thanks,

adam
 
my father and i run one of raleigh's older companies. be warned, we're not cheap but the work/service will be top notch. feel free to pm me if you'd like to discuss anything further.
http://www.ivansealeyplumbing.com/
 
Damn, I did not know that..

I may have ya come over and give me an estimate.. I want to add a downstairs bath, but location is on a slab so it will take some work..
 
we're not cheap

Are any plumbers cheap?
There are some places where I'm all about getting the cheapest. (Usually in something you can see right away if they did it ok, or if it fails it won't destroy more than you possibly could save.)
But plumbing, electrical, and roofing I don't really think you should go with Jimmy "you'll never track me down again" Cheapo.

As a more on topic bit, I'm going to pass your name to a coworker. She just bought a condo, (3 weeks ago?) and the guest bathroom flooded her downstairs neighbor when used. She's going through the home inspector and bit wondering why they didn't catch it.
 
Damn, I did not know that..
I may have ya come over and give me an estimate.. I want to add a downstairs bath, but location is on a slab so it will take some work..
Yep. In fact, we briefly discussed your bathroom when you towed that car for me a while back. Specifically the process of cutting out the slab for the drains/sewer, etc.

Are any plumbers cheap?
There are some places where I'm all about getting the cheapest. (Usually in something you can see right away if they did it ok, or if it fails it won't destroy more than you possibly could save.)
But plumbing, electrical, and roofing I don't really think you should go with Jimmy "you'll never track me down again" Cheapo.
yeah, that's certainly my opinion on things. i don't understand how some companies stay in business. we definitely go overkill on a lot of stuff, but it's going to be something that will be there for a long time to come.

with people moving so frequently these days, having a plumbing system that lasts 20-30 years isn't such a concern. the mindset is i'll get something that's "good enough" and let the next owner deal with it. or, some people simply don't understand the differences that are out there. not only in workmanship, but materials also.
 
yes i agree - I was just on my roof on Sat. fixing a leak where the vent stack comes through the roof. A plastic/rubber like flange is only gonna last 10 years or so... Guess how old my house is... ok its 12 so Im ahead of the game... not..

Bastard roof installers, shingled and nailed all around it so I can't get the flange off with out wrecking the shingles. Those are another topic, they are also about ready to be replaced..

I just caulked it with some urathane caulking, probably out last the house.. 30 year silicone my ass.
 
Ok, so what is the real deal with PEX?

Is it worth a shit? or just something to make work to sell the property and it'll fail when ya least suspect it ?

I personally don't care for it, especially how you get bent over a barrel to buy the fawkin tool(s) to make the connections.

I now have one of these tools ( 2 sizes ), but I didn't pay thru the nose to get it ( bought it up north were PEX isn't a normal install yet )

I want to install a tankless water heater, and this would require some creative positioning/wiring/plumbing to accomplish.

If PEX is the end all be all, then I'll not reinvent the wheel.
 
pex is the best "alternative" to come along so far. it has none of the bad characteristics that previous poly piping had, such as quest.

as i'm sure you know, how a crimp is made plays HUGE part in how reliable pex is. if you take your time, make a nice crimp, it can be a good joint. if you're sloppy and crimp the ring off center or oblong it, it's probably going to leak eventually. i personally am not a fan of any mechnical connections, but as far as they go pex seems to be okay.

pex can be done nicely, but the problem is usually the installer doesn't give two shits about the finished product form/function, as long as it works. like i said before, people don't know the difference either. they don't know their shower arm isn't supposed to jiggle around when they adjust the head, they think it's normal for stops on the sinks/toilets to be coming out of the wall at a 45 degree angle, they never go under the house so it's okay if it looks like spaghetti under there, etc.

also, pex really hasn't been around long enough to fully determine how good it is. it's been out since the early-mid 90's, but not really used widespread until recent years. with the boom of the tract building market, pex has come with it as well as so many other time saving materials. it's holding up well in my experience though. the only places we really see problems are with the brass fittings on well systems (nothing holds up great to well water except cpvc) and poor installs.

copper is still the end all be all for water systems. you will pay dearly for it though, both in materials cost and labor. it makes for such a nice looking job though, it's quieter, and done right shouldn't have to be touched for 30-40 years if not longer.
 
when we built our shop about 3 years ago we used copper throughout the whole building, I wasnt paying for it

very nice

anyway, I am not a fan of pex at all

maybe If I was a plumber I would think different, pex has come along way in the last few years

Being in the irrigation business on the side, I used to hate digging up around a meter and finding pex at the meter

years back the only way to convert pex to pvc, was to go

pex to cpvc to pvc

Now days, they make some nice fittings to go from pex to pvc, but I would rather crimp a pex fitting than depend on one of those fitting where you slide the pex in and a rubber gasket holds it on by screwing the end caps on

I like class 200, more flow and less pressure loss
 
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