ATS Billet Transmission

from what I've heard....ATS is really overpriced for what you get...ask cumminsdzl about auto trannys for dodge...
 
Suncoast , DTT , HTS , Goerend all make very high quality transmissions! The best converter is the suncoast.
All the parts used in these trannys are the same exact parts, No super duper quality.
Only diffrence is prefrence of adjustment in the valve body. Suncoast Makes the converters for most of the companies listed above with the exception of DTT
 
That is good to know. I need a built transmission really bad. A full billet one. I am trying to get the funds for one right now. Which one would you recondmend for my 02 cummins? I will get a bigger turbo and all eventually but I need a good transmission first!
 
highrollintj said:
i thought rich had a DTT in his old dodge?
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My truck came with a new ATS Stage IV trans with 10k on it when I bought it. 10k later under basically stock power levels (stock plate slid, that's it), it self-destructed.

A made-in-taiwan planetary which is commonly used in cheap rebuilds made it through ATS's QC process un-noticed, and failed, in a rather spectacular fashion. This planetary is EASILY identified visually from the OEM part, and there's really no excuse for it making it through.

I requested, then demanded (when they didn't want to show me the parts), hi-res photos of the damaged parts. I e-mailed Suncoast, DTT, goerend, basically every hi-po 47RE builder I could find, and showed them the photos while I had them on the phone. Without fail, all of them, within 5 seconds of seeing the photos, identified it as a cheapy part.

ATS accused me of rocking the truck while mired in the mud from drive to reverse, under power. I explained that IF i wanted to play in the mud, I've got something for that, and that I was towing a trailer when it happened. "Aaahhh, I see, how heavy was the trailer?" They were let down when I told them 2000-2500lbs (empty car hauler with 10 sticks of .120 DOM on it). They flat out said I was lying to them, and refused to honor their warranty, but then "offered" to rebuild the trans "at cost", for the paltry sum of $1800 + freight, plus the several hundred $ for their "authorized" trans shop to R&R the trans. I told them where they could stick this transmission.

Rob, voodoo, and I picked up my truck with no transmission from the authorized shop and towed it up to VA to have the DTT trans built and installed.. The Raleigh shop later told me of the 15 ATS transmissions they have sold, every one of them have come back with issues, and they aren't allowed to do anything except install and test pressures, so it's not them screwing it up.

Ask ATS or any vendor you're considering what happens if you have a problem with the trans.. can it be fixed on the spot, or does it have to go on a pallet, leaving you without a truck for a week or more (Mine was down for 3 weeks, and was my DD at that point)

Had the defective part not made it through, I might have had no problems with ATS, but their QC is *very* hit or miss. I had the DTT trans for 50k miles, and had NO issues with it. I *thought* I had a slipping TC (I didn't) at about 20k, and when I brought it up to have it checked, DTT warrantied a complete rebuild, and a new TC. NO cost to me, not a dime.

BTW, are you SURE you need a FULL billet trans? input shaft? sure. Output shaft? maybe, but yes if you want to drag race lauch at >10psi boost. Intermediate shaft? You da man... you're making BIG power. (700+hp / 1500+lb-ft) and beating on it like it owes you money.
 
Rich said:
ATS accused me of rocking the truck while mired in the mud from drive to reverse, under power.
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This is ATS's Excuse for EVERY transmission that leaves there shop! So Far I've been VERY happy with the suncoast Crew, And Soon a Dear friend that many of you know will be building his own brand of Transmission, LOCAL with the same high quality parts!

This all leads back to what i see as a problem with the industry! Look how many people buy out of Impulse and the "Name"
 
Yeah, well in the past few days I have for sure been talked out of a ATS transmission.

I am not sure I need full billet, but I put over 30,000 miles on a year and like to play a lot. It now where nears 700hp anytime soon or ever!. I just want something that will last me a while
 
NCcummins said:
Yeah, well in the past few days I have for sure been talked out of a ATS transmission.
I am not sure I need full billet, but I put over 30,000 miles on a year and like to play a lot. It now where nears 700hp anytime soon or ever!. I just want something that will last me a while
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With this being said , We'll stay away from billet!
 
do the billet input though. The output isn't too hard to change and doesn't normally cause collateral damage when it breaks. The input is exactly the opposite.
 
BD makes a good transmission I have really never heard many bad things about them.
 
Landcruzn said:
BD makes a good transmission I have really never heard many bad things about them.
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"BD"?

Seems there's an outfit in Canada(?) that does high-end trannies... "BDsomething"? A bud had 3 of them blow (24V, pane, meth/h20, o-ringed head, huge asre turbo & boost #s) despite claims they'd hold 2000+ lb/ft... Last time I talked to him, he (IIRC) gone with a SunCoast or Goerend assy. and had no more problems. OTOH, he got tired of the whole drag scene and detuned the CTD down to about 1000lb/ft
 
I've had good luck with the Goerend stuff. A guy named Phil McMaster (goes by mcmopar over on DTR) did my trans with the single disk converter and valve body along with a rebuild, and I like it. Its not meant to hold mega HP, but for what I do its great.

He has built a lot of transmissions using Goerend parts and everyone that I talk to that had work done by him loves it.

Hes about 45mins from Chapel Hill.

I can PM you his phone number if you want.
 
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