Control your kids or get out!

GubNi

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North Carolina restraunt is tired of screaming kids and parents that don't do anything about it. If I ever find myself over there I'll look for it so I can have a peacefull dinner.

Remember when restraunts had smoking and non smoking sections? How about kids and no kids section?

http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=116689&catid=70

There's a new item on the menu at Olde Salty Restaurant on Carolina Beach. And it may be hard for some parents to digest. No screaming children. Brenda Armes, Olde Salty's owner says, "If they find it offending, I suggest that they find another restaurant to eat at that does tolerate it, because we're not going to."

Armes is tired of hearing her customers complain about screaming kids while they're trying to dine. So she put up these signs inside and out. She says, "It has brought us in more customers than it's ever kept away."

Gary Gibson is a first time customer. He says, "Having grandchildren, going into restaurants with them is not very enjoyable when you hear a bunch of kids screaming. So, it is nice to see a sign like that up."

But these parents from West Virginia don't think the signs are so nice. Ashley Heflin says, "I've never seen a restaurant say don't bring your screaming kids in here. You can't help if your kids scream."

Armes certainly thinks you can. That's why she confronted the Heflins during our interview with them. Armes says, "You don't think it's fair that I ask you if you're sitting at my table?" Heflin says, "Personally, if I saw that, I wouldn't even come in the restaurant." Armes responds, "I understand, I understand."

It was then that the Heflins' baby started to cry. In question was whether that would be tolerated in the restaurant. Heflin says, "I mean, he cries like that... other kids cry."

Armes says, "That's a crying baby. Here's a screaming child. Wah! Wah! Wah!"

Regardless, all Armes asks is that if your child is screaming, you take them outside. Armes says, "We aren't saying your child can't have fun. We're not saying your child can't be in here."

Still, the policy from armes has parents up in arms over their next meal. The owner says if a patron's child acts up, a restaurant worker will ask the parents to take the child outside. Armes says she won't ask parents, or their children, to leave the restaurant for good.
 
I'd go there. I have 3 kids. I hate when I go to a restuarant with screaming kids. If my kids ever did that we would leave. We've left full carts at grocercy stores to. It's just common courtesy. When my wife and I go out by ourselves if there are kids nearby we ask to be moved.
 
A couple buddies and I were eating the other day and I mentioned it would be nice to have a No Kids section to sit in.

I hate when there is a kid behind you at a restaurant and the kid is standing in the booth, turned around backwards and messing with me. Poking me, making noises, bumping into me, etc. Why do parents not control their kids nowadays? I know when I was a kid, if we were out somewhere I knew to behave and not act like a fool in public. Plus my parents had no issues dishing out discipline if it was needed. I understand it's a kid and they don't know any better unless their parents teach them how to behave. So I guess my real issue is with poor parenting.
 
I totally agree with it.I have 2 small stepkids,and we dont allow they to misbehave in a public place,or anywhere else.Makes perfect sence to me.
 
Agree. I have a 5 y/o and one on the way. He knows how to act in public, and when he dosn't, there are consequences right then and there. I have no shame in putting my child in the corner in a publicplace. And when he's in an ornery mood, we don't go out.

it's a private business - you walk in te hdoor, you abide by their rules. Period. Don't like it - leave.
 
You can't help if your kids scream."

aaaaaaannnnd that makes YOU the problem Ma'am.

I make sure my kids are well behaved. there are times that my 3 y/o is just full of it. and I'll take her lil' ass outside if I have to.

I'd go to that restaurant! Every parent needs to get away from kids even if it's just for a quite dinner!
 
I'd definitely go there! My 6Y.O has been carted outside a couple of times and got an ass whooping in the car. He came back in and was calm, quiet and good. Nowadays all it takes is a look. I've had so many compliments on how good he is at the YMCA program after school and by teachers etc. I laugh and tell them that the beatings must be working. Little do they know I'm not joking. They do.

And the reason so many kids act like that these days is because some dumb shit who doesn't have kids thinks discipline is abuse and reports the parents.
 
with a 2.5yr old the key is if the kid is in a bad mood before dinner then do not go out to eat.. it will just be a disaster for all.

my son is 90% of the time great but he does have his days
 
with a 2.5yr old the key is if the kid is in a bad mood before dinner then do not go out to eat.. it will just be a disaster for all.

my son is 90% of the time great but he does have his days


Bingo...anyone who knows my kids generally agrees they are very well behaved and act like little adults. But as they grow and their bodies and minds develop they will go through stage whee they test limits and boundaries. We set those boundaries very firm but when they are in a testing mood that is a private experience for me and my family not for everyone around us, and while very rare those days do happen.

All that said, a no kids section is horse shit. A no brat section on the other hand...or no idiot section...I could get on board with. But there are plenty of adults (a couple in this thread even) that would need to stay out I'm afraid...
 
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All that said, a no kids section is horse shit. A no brat section on the other hand...or no idiot section...I could get on board with. But there are plenty of adults (a couple in this thread even) that would need to stay out I'm afraid...
As a parent of two Kids that we regularly take out,I would definitely agree.My kids are 7(Boy) and 8(Girl),They have been taught their entire life how to act in public.We never have any issues with them and when we are somewhere a kid is throwing a fit,my son will usually lean over and ask "Daddy,what's wrong with that kid?"Usually I just shrug my shoulders and keep eating.I mean it's fair that no one wants to listen to other peoples kids Cry and act out while they eat.No Kids at all though,is just Garbage,Some of us actually take the time to parent.
 
I'm pretty strict with my kids, they are 3 and 1, and generally make them be well behaved. I don't let them disturb others in restaurants or out in public, and have left places before if they've gotten out of hand. I won't hesitate to spank/pop their butts them in public to keep them in line.

HOWEVER, if I went to that or any other restaurant with such a sign, I'd let them run rampant. Putting up signs like that is uncalled for, and extremely rude. Anyone not already disciplining their kids has no business there in the first place, no need for a sign, effectively putting more of a spotlight on them than what already is.

I'm not saying letting your kids disturb other customers isn't rude, but I would not discipline my kids at all in her business. They'd have to call the cops to get me out of there before I left without finishing my meal.

Crass? Sure, but so is that sign.
 
I have 2 kids. Each of them has pulled that crap only once. When they did we went outside for a "word of prayer" then "warmed the buns" and they have not been like that since.
 
I have been in places where kids run around and act retarded screaming throwing food and the parents just act like nothing is happening come to find out they are these hippy morons thats like violence causes violence crap. There is a little boy at my moms church that acts like a damn fool running up and down the isles during service and all that :poop: and actually climbs up on the chuch sign (about 5') and was dancing when the preacher asked the father to stop him he said he didnt want to slow his creativity down. Needless to say the preacher pulled him down (slowly) and told him if he couldnt control his child dont bring him back. Point is he was a disruption multiple times during service and was a danger to himself. If he would have fell he could have been injured and the church liable! Cheers to the lady for the sign piss off one family draw in 10 others not bad odds!:flipoff2:
 
My dad and I was sittin in olde salty the 19th of last month when It all went down with brenda and the lady with the screaming kid. The lady was Irrirate when brenda kicked her out for screaming to the top of her lungs. Me and dad were rolling laughing brenda might be little but dont take shit from nobody. Jim the bar tender is cool as crap If you havent been there look them up next time you go.
 
I have been in places where kids run around and act retarded screaming throwing food and the parents just act like nothing is happening come to find out they are these hippy morons thats like violence causes violence crap.
I think retards prefer to be called Mentally Challenged or something???IDK just sayin!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
After reading every post I think we have missed the point. Everyone has talked about what the do to control and discipline children. When the problem is not the kids its the parents.

My son has a friend that has came to our house since he was about 5 years old and he is 14 now. He gives his parents a hard time and acts out everywhere they take him but gets in the truck with me or comes to our house and he is a totally different kid. I have never disciplined him but he has seen me discipline my children and I coached him several years in elementary school football. I think we should give the kids a chance and throw the parents out or maybe take the leather to them. I saw a lady slap a small child in the mouth while she was acting up in a fast food joint and I wanted to do the samething to the lady. IMO to only do it in public is to little to late.
 
HOWEVER, if I went to that or any other restaurant with such a sign, I'd let them run rampant. Putting up signs like that is uncalled for, and extremely rude. Anyone not already disciplining their kids has no business there in the first place, no need for a sign, effectively putting more of a spotlight on them than what already is.

...They'd have to call the cops to get me out of there before I left without finishing my meal.

are you sure your kid didn't write your response?

the problem is that most folks just ignore their children. they're used to it so it doesn't bother them as much and they think they're "just pitching at fit. it'll stop in a minute when they get tired." BS :poop:

I'm glad to see signs like this. maybe it'll wake up a few parents who seem to think just because they have a child they should get special consideration.
 
Every time you see an undisciplined child a shitty parent is responsible. Our kids, 5 & 11, know the look and that is all it takes. I have a friend that doesnt spank or discipline in the manner that we do. Their kid is a Grade A fucking brat throwing tantrums, crying when they dont get their way, you name it.

I am so glad my parents beat my ass when needed.
 
Yall do realize that the sign doesn't say "No Kids", its says "No Screaming Children".

During the interview, a lady's baby started to cry and the owner said that was ok, it was the screaming children that were a problem:
It was then that the Heflins' baby started to cry. In question was whether that would be tolerated in the restaurant. Heflin says, "I mean, he cries like that... other kids cry."

Armes says, "That's a crying baby. Here's a screaming child. Wah! Wah! Wah!"

Regardless, all Armes asks is that if your child is screaming, you take them outside. Armes says, "We aren't saying your child can't have fun. We're not saying your child can't be in here."
 
I work with small children on a daily basis. I see parents make all kinds of excuses as to why their children may have behavior issues. Society has given parents a free pass with things like ADD and social anxiety etc. Yes, those issues do exist but on a MUCH smaller plain than you would believe. I see it daily, children screaming before walking through the door to try and control their parents but once mom or dad is gone they know it doesn't work on us and have learned how to behave here at school. Too many parents do not have expectations of their children and would rather be their children's friends rather than parents. It is so much easier to ignore it and just eat their dinner than actually parent.

I'm all for the signs. People know what is expected so there is no excuse for their children acting out. Remember, children learn by modeling others. Do you want to expose your kids, even briefly, to children with bad behavior. I wish every place of business had this policy, maybe parents would learn to parent again.
 
Maybe we're just lucky, but I've never (yet) had to physically lay a hand on our child. I'd rather not and will hold out, but would if it comes down to it.

We've found that psychological punishment works waaay better anyway.
All it takes is for him think that we're disappointed or he is making us sad, or his actions are negatively impacting us, and he'll break down.

I think this is where alot of the "anti-violence" people go wrong, they don't realize that you can just as easily punish a child psychologically as physically. And that lasts longer. E.g. by removing something they love.
 
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