Coolant filtration

paradisePWoffrd

paradisePWoffrd

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After seeing this video, figured I would post up for thoughts.



Not arguing that it can't hurt, but is it really worth the time & cost?

Maybe I'm missing something but, it might prolong the life of a heater core or water pump? But for how long and at what cost.
 
flush the system a few times and use distilled water on the final fill. I would not buy that.
 
On a diesel unit with SCA I'd run a coolant filter with integrated SCA.

I recently got an old SBC runninf, had a radiatyor re done it had set up open years and had tons of scale and didnt want to clog the new radiator.
I installed one of these: Inline Champion Coolant Filter | Champion Radiators

It was a tad expensive in my taste, but its quality made and will last and transfer vehicle to vehicle. After owning it I'll buy more for the diagnostic abilities it provides. Plumbed post water pump I know 100% if the tstat is open, if there is air in the system, the condition of the coolant etc...I really like it.
 
to add these bypass filter kits were all the rage in the powerstroke world. People used to post all about casting sand in the blocks and other such nonsense. The issue was Ford insisted on using their in house motorcracft gold coolant that was silica based and separated ...looked like and. But none the less the filters are big in the 6.0/6.4 world
 
Added one to my 6.0L (was given to me), but the base nipple wasn't square (leaked), so it was replaced with a Baldwin base & filter.
Only a few 1000 miles on it so far, but will change the filter over the winter, and open it up to see what it's caught... if not obviously catching the crap @Ron mentioned above (mines be flushed multiple times and swapped to red LLC)... will get yanked, as it's just another point of failure
 
Is there something special about the filter? 3/4" hydraulic filter/base aren't that expensive.

I also noticed the kit in the video was T'd in, which doesn't seem useful to me.
 
paradisePWoffrd said:
Is there something special about the filter?
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I ASSuMEd filters were like automagic tranny linings... water-based/soluble glue on the oily parts and petroleum-based/soluble on the watery parts?
There are specific filters for each, but no idea of differences...


paradisePWoffrd said:
I also noticed the kit in the video was T'd in, which doesn't seem useful to me.
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Yeah, lot's of discussion on "bypass" filtering... is filtering 1% of the coolant worth it? I'm not exactly convinced...
I like the inline @Ron posted, would touch 100% of the coolant, but not sure the level of "filtering" would come anywhere near a cartridge/canister?
 
Caver Dave said:
I ASSuMEd filters were like automagic tranny linings... water-based/soluble glue on the oily parts and petroleum-based/soluble on the watery parts?
There are specific filters for each, but no idea of differences...



Yeah, lot's of discussion on "bypass" filtering... is filtering 1% of the coolant worth it? I'm not exactly convinced...
I like the inline @Ron posted, would touch 100% of the coolant, but not sure the level of "filtering" would come anywhere near a cartridge/canister?
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What Im filtering is scale and rust flakes from a "seasoned" block and an old radiator. No way would it get out smallest of particles, nor am I worried about it doing so.
Some folks way overthink the cleanliness of coolant. So long as it draws heat out the metal and doesnt stop up passages who cares.

In a diesel there is the added concern of getting SCA into the coolant and the filter medium makes as good a place as any to introduce that.

Also on a diesel Id specifically recommend addressing electrolysis and its potential role in cavitation...
 
Ron said:
What Im filtering is scale and rust flakes from a "seasoned" block and an old radiator. No way would it get out smallest of particles, nor am I worried about it doing so.
Some folks way overthink the cleanliness of coolant. So long as it draws heat out the metal and doesnt stop up passages who cares.

In a diesel there is the added concern of getting SCA into the coolant and the filter medium makes as good a place as any to introduce that.

Also on a diesel Id specifically recommend addressing electrolysis and its potential role in cavitation...
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Like any pickup truck engine diesel or not is going to last long enough for that to be an issue.

All's I care about is not clogging my heater core, it's harder to swap that than the engine.
 
braxton357 said:
Like any pickup truck engine diesel or not is going to last long enough for that to be an issue.

All's I care about is not clogging my heater core, it's harder to swap that than the engine.
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Ive seen industrial mechanical B Cummings have holes in less than 200 hours of operation from electrolysis induced cavitation....They didnt even run long enough to produce enough fuel to pay for themselves
 
Ron said:
Ive seen industrial mechanical B Cummings have holes in less than 200 hours of operation from electrolysis induced cavitation....They didnt even run long enough to produce enough fuel to pay for themselves
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I'll bite... know what electrolysis and cavitation are, but don't understand how they'd combine to create an issue :confused:
 
It's little holes in the cooling system making more little holes in the cooling system. Compounded problem.
 
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