EGR Delete

[Baker]

just bought an 06 F-350 bone stock.. i've heard you need to do lots of things to them and i've heard leave them stock? the biggest thing being i need to do an egr delete kit. whats your thoughts? should i leave it stock or do the delete? what else if anything should i do?

 

[Ron]

If you are going to keep it, get a monitor on it that will feed you some info.
Specifically on the 6.0 you need to monitor Engine Oil temp and Coolant Temp. If the Delta gets over about 7 bad things are about to happen. This is an indication that your EGR cooler is clogged and not allowing your cooing system to work properly. First thing you need to do either way is get the damn ford gold shit coolant out of it. You need a good ELC coolant and to get the sludge out of the system.
From there some folks swear by coolant bypass filters to get casting sand out of the system. If you feel froggy go for it.
Batteries....if your battery voltage gets low, you will burn an FICM....keep new bateris in it and measure voltage.

the EGR itself if you delete it you will likely be looking at a Check Engine light, unless.....

 

[parttime]

egr delete yes. a sct tuner with custom tuning will take care of the cel. if for some reason u have head gaskets go out i would do head studs. oil temp is important to watch as well as the tranny temp. by pass filter is good and a good exhaust to let it breath will help too. And another thing changr the oil every 5k and use motorcraft filters i change my fuel filters every oil change as well and i also drain the water out of the fuel system each time too. ur injectors will thank u and will last a long time. i get motorcraft oil and fuel filters from Advance auto and i run the 15w40 motorcraft oil and i can change the oil myself and it cost me less than $100 each time.

 

[Baker]

ok so i've seen the sct tuner is pretty popular. this is my first diesel though i've driven a friends 04 cummings for about a year. i know all about the oil and fuel filter changes. but my question is how do i know how tune my programmer to suit my needs. ?

 

[parttime]

talk with Erik over at innovative diesel. he is a great tuner that is who i use for my custom tunes. i really like his tunes, i have tried several others but i always go back with his tunes for my 6.0

 

[CasterTroy]

First off...I'm no expert. So PLEASE do not take what I say as gospel. However, what I’m about to post is information I received FROM an expert that cleared up a LOT of internet rumors and just straight up incorrect information.
But then again, it's the internet...so misinformation and net-sperts are everywhere.....but in this case I'm NOT trying to sound like one, or be some ass that argues on the internet. But I think a few things can get cleared up in this thread and maybe help others.
GREAT information Ron..but from what I understand, there are just a few misconceptions I'm reading.

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Specifically on the 6.0 you need to monitor Engine Oil temp and Coolant Temp.

Agree 110% This is the only way you get a warning as to what cripples the 6.0 and gives it a bad reputation.

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If the Delta gets over about 7 bad things are about to happen.

From what I understand from the owner of "TrucksUnlimited" (the powerstroke expert on the east coast according to most people on powerstroke.org) it should be 10 degrees difference. 15 occasionally under load but 10 typically

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This is an indication that your EGR cooler is clogged and not allowing your cooing system to work properly.

Actually...it's the oil cooler that's clogged, NOT the EGR when the delta T gets too far apart. The ford oil cooler is basically a large particle filter
Big pic so linked it instead...click here to see oil cooler cut in half

When the oil cooler starts caking up....


Closeups:

The EGR then doesn't get sufficient coolant flow...THAT's when big problems happen

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First thing you need to do either way is get the damn ford gold shit coolant out of it. You need a good ELC coolant and to get the sludge out of the system.
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Agree 100% if the delta T is still hovers at 10. If it's over 15 consistently...then there's only one solution. And it involves about $900. And that's a new oil cooler, and EGR delete with a system flush. THEN I'd install a coolant filter.

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From there some folks swear by coolant bypass filters to get casting sand out of the system....

Coolant filter, yes....casting sand...no. The coolant used in most of these trucks from the factor is silica based......silica is what? THIS is where the sand comes from that blocks the oil cooler causing the problem. Not casting.
Again...do NOT take my word for it. I'm a mechanical engineer that designs HVAC and Plumbing....NOT a mechanic. But I try to learn everything I can from reliable sources (I.E. the real world mechanics, and those who do this stuff daily) so by all means call a diesel specialist near you. I recommend Trucks Unlimited in WS (336) 764-5657
They've SAVED many people money by NOT doing work that didn't need to be done (I.E. and EGR delete if the oil cooler is intact) and from what I've seen when I drive by there....they NEVER have a shortage of powerstrokes to work on. So they MUST be doing something right!
Also....joining powerstroke.org is a good idea for general knowledge and help...but be aware...it's FULL of those net-sperts that I mentioned above. Simply because a person has enough time to lurk continuously on a website and regurgitate information they THINK is correct....doesn’t make their opinion right. It’s just the most “popular”. So lurk with caution.
Hope this helps…OH and don’t let the 7.3 guys get to you…they have the 4R100 problems to deal with

 

[Ron]

2 points
- Ford TSB says 7 degrees under a specific test. that is unloaded, steady speed 55-60 mph, flatish ground for 3-5 minutes then read the delta. if you are 15 in thsoe circumstances break out the wallet. When loaded heavy and accelerating hard the delat can jump wide for a brief period of time with no reprcussions.
- EGR cooler is upstream of the oil cooler.