Fuel going up again

Landcruzn

Landcruzn

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I just got a phone call tonight to let me know that fuel is going up again tomorrow. Fuel here is 4.49 and I was told that it is going up to 4.78 and gas was going to follow as well. I just thought that I would give people a heads up to maybe save a couple cents.
 
when i was in high school about 8 years ago...i lived in France and remember it was about 5 bucks per liter...i laughed and thought how ridiculous it was. who's laughing now!? my wallet thats who...
 
Heres another heads up and it may be for other areas as well but not sure. Everyone complains about ethanol b/c you dont get as mch mileage from it. One of the fire capt's wife here works for a gas station and when they got the tanks filled last week they noticed ethanol mix being put into the tanks. Think it was a 90/10 ratio. Anyway she told the guy they were getting the wrong fuel the weren't supposed to get it nor were they set up for it. Guy said no it's right, this is what your getting. The higher ups said to start filling the tanks without warning and alot of people got upset when they found out. Talked to several mechanics I know at various shops and said they've been hit with a rash of poor running cars. Did the octane test and found it to be as low as 78 at time. Now not only are few people getting less mileage they have to buy the octane booster as well.
 
So all you cheap skates that won't go wheeling because fuel is too high...I'd go now before it gets even higher or sell your rig, cause you'll never go when it's $6 a gallon.
 
BIGWOODY said:
So all you cheap skates that won't go wheeling because fuel is too high...I'd go now before it gets even higher or sell your rig, cause you'll never go when it's $6 a gallon.
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I will still go :)

of course I need to finish my projects first :)
 
Yep, crude hit a record $135 a barrel today.
 
drkelly said:
Yep, crude hit a record $135 a barrel today.
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I love this.
Every evening on teh drive home on NPR, I hear the same thing.

"Crude his a new record high today, $XXX per barrel."

Here's the thing. If it was a record high yesterday, and the price went up THEN IT HAS TO BE A NEW RECORD HIGH.
Just say "It went up again". Being a "new record" is 100% meaningless now.
 
RatLabGuy said:
I love this.
Every evening on teh drive home on NPR, I hear the same thing.
"Crude his a new record high today, $XXX per barrel."
Here's the thing. If it was a record high yesterday, and the price went up THEN IT HAS TO BE A NEW RECORD HIGH.
Just say "It went up again". Being a "new record" is 100% meaningless now.
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A new record has been hit 15 straight days.
 
Oh well until either the trucks do something about it and stop transporting goods to everyone or the stores stop selling it you might as well bend over and get ready to keep taking it bc there is not going to be a stop to it, there is to many high up people making money off it.
 
Landcruzn said:
there is to many high up people making money off it.
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The Canadians are North, not high up. 45% of our oil comes from Canada, less than 18% comes from the Middle east. We get a bunch from South America. About 5% is good ol' Merican Earl.
 
Trucks

The "Trucks" are not going to do anything. The national average "fuel surcharge" is 59 cents per mile for freight. ($1,500 for a load to LA) The surcharge cost is passed directly to the cost of goods and food you buy. I know you have noticed the price of food, especially produce, has gone up drastiscally.

The surcharge has been in effect for several years and increases as the price of fuel goes up.
 
Yes I know what a fuel surcharge is but that still is not that great even especially if fuel is going up everyday. Yes they just turn the cost to the consumer but they have to make a living to as I do understand that. I just wished they would shut down for 2 weeks and yes that would do a lot but one can only dream.
 
Josh C said:
Heres another heads up and it may be for other areas as well but not sure.
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Ethanol has been in gasoline for quite awhile, this isn't something new. I have seen notices at some gas stations that there may be ethanol in the fuel. Just found this article also:

http://triangle.bizjournals.com/triangle/stories/2008/03/17/story12.html?page=2

Tazewell says ethanol use is also driven by other factors. The federal Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 sets a renewable fuel standard that will require fuel companies to use at least 36 billion gallons of biofuel by 2022.

Ethanol blending also carries a tax incentive. Blends that are 85 percent ethanol and 15 percent gasoline qualify for a 51-cent-tax credit per gallon. A 10 percent ethanol blend qualifies for a 5-cent-tax credit per gallon. The credit goes to the blender.

CleanFuel USA, a Georgetown, Texas-based ethanol distributor, brings ethanol into North Carolina from the Midwest by truck or rail. It blends the fuel at its terminals here.

Steve Walk, the company's director of project development, says CleanFuel passes the blending credit on to the retailers in the form of a lower price.

When gas stations do start selling ethanol blends, it might not be readily apparent to drivers. The state did away with labeling requirements on pumps carrying ethanol blends six years ago.
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I have noticed a pretty substantial increase in motorcycles on the road here lately... I even saw (2) people on a Kawi 200 (not a 250)...

I've also noticed my average commute speed is slowing down to around 65mph... 2 months ago you had to run 75+ to keep up w/ the flow of traffic.

I'm to the point of starting to ride the Gixxer to work at 45+mpg.. and pick up my wife a new 08 Kawi 250R for $3500.00 and get around 80+mpg (I'd secretly like to ride it)

2008250r.jpg


Looks like every other R bike but it's a two-fiddy...
 
I'd rock a two-fiddy! I expect to see the last gen's being sold at ridiculous bargain prices because everyone will be wanting the newly "redesigned" model. Cheap commuter bikes can be had to offset the cost of fuel. There are also alot more dangers associated with riding, and I think folks will start overlooking that to save a buck, and more and more folks will eat asphalt. I tagged a deer with my front tire coming home from work last night, that scared me enough to take the cage to work for awhile.
 
has anyone checked out alternate vehicles. Keep your 4x4 of course, but get a fuel economic ride too. Toyota prius, Scion X-d are good priced and get 35=60 mpg. I aint got no other choice myself. Maybe try a motorcycle. I got a daredevil gene though and would probably spend more money on hospital bills.
 
Last night Circle K on 73/85 - 3.94 a gallon- don't you just love those companies out to rape ya?
 
mitchmp2005 said:
has anyone checked out alternate vehicles. Keep your 4x4 of course, but get a fuel economic ride too. Toyota prius, Scion X-d are good priced and get 35=60 mpg. I aint got no other choice myself. Maybe try a motorcycle. I got a daredevil gene though and would probably spend more money on hospital bills.
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I see a lot of people fall into the "trap" I'd call it... Why go into debt and pay a car payment just to save some $$ on gas... Just doesn't make sense to me. If your 4x4's paid for then picking up a $20,000 Prius just to save gas money would be crazy (unless you're looking for another car).

My buddy did however just pick up a $1000 Honda Accord that's getting 33mpg..


As for the motorcycle's... if this trend continues and gas keeps going up, I bet you'll see a lot more on the roads. The only reason I dont like commuting on mine is b/c of all the cagers not paying attention... :shaking:

Oh yeah the 08 250's are out... and can be had for $3500.00... I'm tempted to go buy one..
 
I am getting completely hosed. I want to buy a bike but company won't let you ride one. Like give me some $, a company car, or let me ride a motorcycle.

I see a lot of people fall into the "trap" I'd call it... Why go into debt and pay a car payment just to save some $$ on gas... Just doesn't make sense to me. If your 4x4's paid for then picking up a $20,000 Prius just to save gas money would be crazy (unless you're looking for another car).
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Depends really. I mean if this keeps on keeping on at $7/gallon some people are going to be forced into bikes and econoboxes.

lets say your 4x4 gets 15mpg on a 50 mile daily commute

thats 3.3 gallons per day @ $7= $23.10

50mile commute @ 50mpg = 1 gallon

1gal x $7= 7 dollars

thats 15 dollars a day difference. 15x30days=450 bucks

450x12= 5400 a year. Thats if you were to drive 25 miles to and 25 miles back a day. Granted thats based on a 7 day outlook and @ a possible $7/gallon. Keep in mind I don't see these hybrids dropping value much either.
 
raleighjeepguy said:
I am getting completely hosed. I want to buy a bike but company won't let you ride one. Like give me some $, a company car, or let me ride a motorcycle.
Depends really. I mean if this keeps on keeping on at $7/gallon some people are going to be forced into bikes and econoboxes.
lets say your 4x4 gets 15mpg on a 50 mile daily commute
thats 3.3 gallons per day @ $7= $23.10
50mile commute @ 50mpg = 1 gallon
1gal x $7= 7 dollars
thats 15 dollars a day difference. 15x30days=450 bucks
450x12= 5400 a year. Thats if you were to drive 25 miles to and 25 miles back a day. Granted thats based on a 7 day outlook and @ a possible $7/gallon. Keep in mind I don't see these hybrids dropping value much either.
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I see what youre saying.. but look at it this way:

Go buy a Used Toyota Prius

1. Purchase Price: $23,500
2. Tax/tags/title: $500.00

So off that bat there's $24,000

Now using your scenario for commuting:

1. Your 4x4 @ 50miles/day @ 15mpg = 3.33gal. = $23/day ($7/gal)

So weekly: = $161.00
monthly: $700.00
Yearly: $8400.00

So you spend $8400.00 a year on gas w/o a car payment....


Now....

2. Prius @ 50mpd @ 50mpg = 1gal. = $7

weekly: $49.00
monthly:$212.00
yearly: $2550.00

so you're spending $2550.00 a year on gas + your payments:

3. Paying for the Prius:

Say you put 4K down and you're financing $20,000 for 60mo.s @ 6%... Your payments approx: $387.00/month

So that car: $387.00 * 12 = $4650.00 for the year:

Ok so now you've got
1. 2550.00 (gas) + 4650.00 (car) = $7200.00 (+700.00/ for insurance) = $7900.00<-- PRIUS
2. 4x4 = 8400.00

Yep it's $500.00 difference @ 7.00/gallon... but you have to realize you've committed to the pay for the prius for 5 years.

Now if gas only gets to $5/gal (can't belive I called that "only") your numbers go to:

Prius: 4650.00 (payments) + $1820 (gas) = $6500 (+ add some isurance say $700.00/year) = TOTAL $7200

4x4: $6100.00 (gas)...

$2.00 makes a pretty big swing... unless I did my math way wrong...
 
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