gvwr over 8500 and inspection rules

Clubbs

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My 05 Dodge has a gvwr of 9000. I've heard rumor that I only get a saftey inspection and they don't even plug into the obd2 port. Is that right? I know diesels are different anyway, just haven't had to inspect mine.

The real question is since the dealer says my cummins is dusted and it looks like I may have a CAT C7 to put in its place, could I do it without having to deal with inspection problems??

Clubbs
 
So my 96 2500 V10 dodge would only have a safety inspection as well?
 
So my 96 2500 V10 dodge would only have a safety inspection as well?
Correct. $13 safety inspection only, the do not plug up to OBDII, but they do peek inside to make sure a check engine light isn't on.

For some reason only Diesel and older than 96 vehicles are listed on the NCDOT site as exempt, but that must be a typo, anything over 8500lb GVWR is exempt.
 
yep. my gas excursion is always safety only.
 
Technically they do look to ensure there is a cat under the rig right?
 
Technically they do look to ensure there is a cat under the rig right?


some shops do. some dont give a flip. around my small town they'll find a way to pass you just so you'll keep coming back to them. my 98 jeep passed, cut exhaust under cab, CEL, and airbag light. ohh and no horn lol
it passed, but i still fixed the exhaust. now it sits on the trailer haha
 
Technically they do look to ensure there is a cat under the rig right?
They are supposed to. The $13 "Safety" inspection still includes a visual inspection of all emissions devices such as cats, looking under hood to make sure everything is hooked up, and looking to see if check engine light is on. This includes trucks over 8500 GVWR, and vehicles 95 and older.


I have never had to pay anything other than the safety inspection on my 01 2500HD 6.0, once when my normal shop was closed the day I needed to get an inspection I took it to a Valvoline Quick Lube to have it done. Dude came walking out with a $30+ charge for safety and emissions, I told him to walk back and look again at that sticker that says 9200lb GVWR, he fixed it and only charged the $13 then.
 
the above is correct, even though it's called a "safety" inspection, a visual inspection of all the emissions equipment is still technically required. whether or not that actually happens is another story. usually, it's just a quick glance at things, if that. whether through ignorance or lack of care, the large majority of places will let you slide on minor/inconspicuous things (gutted cat, blocked off egr with a valve body still in place, etc.). it usually takes a glaring violation to fail the visual. however, there are plenty of inspectors out there that will ignore anything, especially if a tip is involved.:flipoff2:

my 98 jeep passed, cut exhaust under cab, CEL, and airbag light. ohh and no horn lol
it passed, but i still fixed the exhaust. now it sits on the trailer haha
very hard to believe it passed emissions under the current test procedures with the cel on, i'd be curious to know how. i guess it's possible somebody somewhere has figured something out by now, but as far as i know there is absolutely no way to get an obdII emissions test through the computer as passed with the cel on and/or the appropriate systems not showing as "ready".

of course, it's possible to cover things up through custom aftermarket tuning of a vehicles computer, but the end result of that is to create the illusion to the inspection software that everything is normal, i.e. no cel on, all systems showing ready, etc. i'm not aware of any possible way to fool the inspection computer/dmv system into a pass if the cel is on, there are codes set, too many systems "not ready", or whatever else. gone are the days of simply pulling the bulb to the cel, sticking the tailpipe sniffer in another vehicle, etc.:lol:
 
the above is correct, even though it's called a "safety" inspection, a visual inspection of all the emissions equipment is still technically required. whether or not that actually happens is another story. usually, it's just a quick glance at things, if that. whether through ignorance or lack of care, the large majority of places will let you slide on minor/inconspicuous things (gutted cat, blocked off egr with a valve body still in place, etc.). it usually takes a glaring violation to fail the visual. however, there are plenty of inspectors out there that will ignore anything, especially if a tip is involved.:flipoff2:
very hard to believe it passed emissions under the current test procedures with the cel on, i'd be curious to know how. i guess it's possible somebody somewhere has figured something out by now, but as far as i know there is absolutely no way to get an obdII emissions test through the computer as passed with the cel on and/or the appropriate systems not showing as "ready".
of course, it's possible to cover things up through custom aftermarket tuning of a vehicles computer, but the end result of that is to create the illusion to the inspection software that everything is normal, i.e. no cel on, all systems showing ready, etc. i'm not aware of any possible way to fool the inspection computer/dmv system into a pass if the cel is on, there are codes set, too many systems "not ready", or whatever else. gone are the days of simply pulling the bulb to the cel, sticking the tailpipe sniffer in another vehicle, etc.:lol:
Places do it all the time, its called clean scanning. They hoopk up to one car with no light, load in the cars info with the cel. The dmv has caught onto to this because it send the mfg and options when it scans the car. I have had a shop that was clean scanning cars (did over 50 from there used car side) got fined a little over $60,000 dollars.....
 
Nc requires the VIN to match as well, scan the registration, and the VIN in the computer is supposed to match.

several years ago I had to sign a statement acknowledging that I KNEW that the state was watching for VIN swaps on the emissions tests. if you refused you lost your inspections license.

I'm glad I don't have to deal with it anymore, it's more PITA than it's worth.

not long after I got out of auto repair, the shop I worked at got popped, the tech " missed" that the Check Engine light didn't come on when turning key on ( vehicle self test mode ) went thru the whole inspection, passed it ( non emissions inspection ) passed the vehicle, soon as he completed the sale, he was fined I wanna say $250 for it. there was a few other things too.
 
I know a place ya could probably get a good deal on a c-32 Accert !!!lol just need bigger springs in the front :driver:
 
Hey guys, I'm bumping this thread up to the top since I need to register my 06 Dodge DRW in NC.

The truck is all stock with the exception of the exhaust. It's got a Farm Boy Exhaust setup with the cat gone, just the muffler and dual pipes remain. This was never an issue in MN since they don't do inspections or emissions.

The posts above ease my mind a bit not needing the "sniff test" but the visual inspection is worrisome. If I fail at one place, can I head to another place and so on until I find someone who will pass me?
 
If I fail at one place, can I head to another place and so on until I find someone who will pass me?


IIRC, you'll be "in the system" then and *IF* they call you on the cat, will be required to be re-inspected at the same station/shop...

OTOH, outside of a "truck" shop with larger 2-post lifts (most service stations/shops have smaller/cheaper lifts for cars/small trucks), they won't put it in the air and if 2WD, likely won't bother trying to crawl underneath to look. AFAICT, the rules only state they must pull it into their facility (bay) to perform the safety inspection...

Never had any issues with my old D350 (straight piped w/ stack)...
 
The law states in the simple explanation that if you inspect it, all four wheels are to be off the ground atleast once, and if it came on it factory it better still be on it. The inspection system punishes the tech and shop, just an inconvenience for the vehicle owner. I might consider renewing my license just to say I have it but I doubt ill license the shop as an inspection station.
 
bump - any diesel friendly inspectors in Raleigh

I have a 2005 Powerstroke that is missing cat and EGR, but has no codes or check engine lights.
 
bump - any diesel friendly inspectors in Raleigh

I have a 2005 Powerstroke that is missing cat and EGR, but has no codes or check engine lights.
No one in their right mind would post in this thread if they knew a shop or not, but maybe through a PM, that could mean big trouble for a shop if it was just openly listed on the internet like that. But in my experience, most small non franchise shops don't take the time to visually inspect emissions as long as no lights are on.
 
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