im looking to buy a house!

wrangler00

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ive always been a impulse buyer and if i see it i jump on it and if i make up my mind that i want something i go for it but most of the time get something cheap and im disappointed with my purchase but now im in the market to buy a home (tired of renting) ive already got pre-approved for about 70,000 dollars i know its not much but its something the bank told me it could not be a trailer it has to be a house i found the house its a 2 bedroom one bath with a deck. does anybody have any suggestions on a first time home buyer
 
Get a real estate agent, its costs you nothing, the seller will pay the agents.

Look and look some more, right now with the market the way it is there are a lot of houses sitting. But you will need to look a lot to find one in your price range thats in decent condition, and location.

Next thing is be sure your income is secure. Locking your self into a 30 year mortgage is allot different than a rental. You can't just get out of a mortgage. You need to sure this what you want.

If this is the route you want to take, there are incentives for first time buyers as far as tax breaks go, Claire can help you with that if your interested.

But if you want my honest opinion, I think you should sort somethings out before buying a house.
 
Location, location, location! I've found a number of houses I like, but not so much the location. Remember, you can change most anything about the house you don't like, but you can't change the location. You will also probably need 20% down so you can avoid PMI. They seem to be the ones that are preventing many houses from being bought. One of the guys I work with just bought a new house but had to take a second choice because of the PMI deal. The require you to find 3 homes that are comparable in most every aspect within a certain percentage. I.e. if you're looking at a 2 BR 1 BA home the comparable homes can't be 4 BR 3 BA and can't be much more than 10-15% difference in price. The first home they wanted to buy, they couldn't find a 3 comparable homes nearby so PMI refused to insure their loan. (they were putting $42,000 down and it wasn't 20% of the purchase price.)

Good luck and definitely get a Realtor.
 
70k approval. Is this using accurate numbers or the banks funny math that has messed up a lot of things. standard ratio is no more than 30-35% of your income. If you single and able to fudge on things like meals/personal care items, no kids etc... you can take it to 35-40% most places won't/shouldn't loan above that.

#2 - Figure ~5k out of pocket expenses during the purchase process, unless you can get the seller to cover more of that or wrap it into the purchase price. (pay it if you can up front) This covers inspections, title research, earnest $ etc...

#3 think about other 'new' expenses from owning a house. Lawn mower, washer/dryer, things you may not already have but will be needed. Think about electric/power, gas, oil, things that may cost more now.

#4 do it, owning a place can be a good decision but you need to be thinking long term. As your self if you NEED to be in a home or is it something your doing because you want to be an adult... if your not going to be in the same place for the next 5-10 years buying may not be the best decision for you.

all that said it is 100% a buyers market, look and look more, get your own (buyers) agent, don't be fooled/tricked into using the sellers agent. An agent will do the searching and research FOR YOU. They are paid by the seller from the overall commission/fees which is why sellers/agents don't want to use them if they can help it. My agent was worth her weight in gold. She knew all the areas/sub-divisions, history of various areas etc..

Don't forget to ask a ton of questions. Over the years I've seen where people were sorta duped about the houses they were buying in that the agents are soposed to disclose certain things but don't where if you outright ask they they would have to lie to you about it.. Ask about damage to the home, new roads or construction 10year planning stuff.

lastly, have your OWN inspection done, well worth the few hunderd dollars, they work for YOU not the seller. Make sure to get a termite inspection also. You want an honest unbiased opinion of the place...

Just like buying a car. I would take an uninterested friend(s) along. They will help you to see things as they are, not as you might be seeing them. They can help point out the obvious... You will have stars in your eyes thinking about how cool each house is and its potential.
 
just remember that it is a buyers market right now, since not much is selling so dont pay asking price, and get them to pay closing costs. that one above was a nice house for the cash, if it were me buying that i would offer them 60 and they pay all closing cost's and see where it goes from there, remember, you know that you got a good real estate deal when neither the seller or the buyer are happy. even better if just the seller isnt happy, (unless you are the seller LOL)
 
I like it. Good luck with whatever you choose to do. :beer:
 
i would do it...its been on the market for 179 days...id go with a low ball offer and get them to pay closing...remember its a buyers market
 
Things to avoid that I can think of thru my own rush to buy a home.

Avoid ANYTHING around a planned subdivision and/or anything with bullshit hoa fee's. Yes they can tell you what you can and can't have parked in your drive. They raise your fees for no reason other than someone behind a PO box addy can collect more money for their bank acct.

Check out your neighbors. Scope out how they keep their home, back yard etc. You can have a great property but the crack heads next door with the caprice on blocks and the yard that hasn't been mowed in 7 months does nothing for your prop value.

Home inspection from someone that knows their ass from a hole in the ground. Not just a ten min look around and collecting a 500$ check from you. Roof, attics, crawl spaces, basements, drainage, etc. Your potential lot could look great during a week with no rain. Could close and find your at the bottom of a flood plain and your looking at 5500k a month for insurance.

Don't rush into it. It sucks when you want to get out of the home but are stuck with it. Do your homework so you don't make a mistake you can't get out of.
 
Just because you can spend $70k doesn't mean you necessarily should.

i second that. we were approved for a loan amount of $180,000 which when we started adding up money we realized we couldnt "afford" anything above $80,000 unless we quit all of our hobbies. It is a buyers market and we got an awesome deal on our house! good luck!
 
The old "rule of thumb" was 2x your annual income. I bought a house last year under 2X my annual income, my mortgage plus escrows is ~ 3 days gross which is ~ 1 week take home. (taxes, insurance and 401K take about 42%)
Never let someone get you into a mortgage that consumes 35% of you gross. That means half or more of your take home going to the mortgage.
I still get "pre-approval" letters for twice what we bought. They must be effing crazy.

If you are a handy man, find something that you can put some sweat equity into. Throw a cookout and have friends over for a specific project.
And always make absolutely sure that your numbers say you can afford it.
 
Things to avoid that I can think of thru my own rush to buy a home.

Avoid ANYTHING around a planned subdivision and/or anything with bullshit hoa fee's. Yes they can tell you what you can and can't have parked in your drive. They raise your fees for no reason other than someone behind a PO box addy can collect more money for their bank acct.

Check out your neighbors. Scope out how they keep their home, back yard etc. You can have a great property but the crack heads next door with the caprice on blocks and the yard that hasn't been mowed in 7 months does nothing for your prop value.

These two thoughts are kinda juxtapositioned, in my opinion.
A good HOA prevents the second scenario...and I am not aware of any HOA that allows anyone to pocket money....your results may vary
 
I guess I'm going against the grain here. I am currently a home owner and sometime time in earky 2011 I am going to put my house up for sale. If it sells, I am going to take my equity and pay cash something (even if it's a shit box). I f I can't pay cash for it, than I will rent someting in the $500 a month range. I personally think home ownership is the most over-rated advice people give. Do not buy on the promise "you can take the interest off on your taxes". It really doesn't help what you get back annually to make any difference. I make a $877 payment each month by myself on a $36,000 (gross) income. My withholdings are single-one dependant (myself). This is also how I file at year end. With interest, taxes, fed withholdings and property taxes I usually itemize around $12,500. Last year, I got back $800. If I would have taken the standard deduction, I would have gotten back $550. At the end of my loan (30 yaers) I will have payed back almost tripple what I borrwed. I f would try to then sell my house for what I payed on the loan, I would most likely only be able to get it if I put another $50,000 in remoldeling to bring it up to the style 30 years from now. If I rent for $500 a month I will save $135,720 in interest alone over 30 years not counting property taxes, up keep, water heater going out, roof replaced, etc. If the rent is decent and you like the location, stay there and let the home owner fix everything that goes wrong in the house.
 
I personally think home ownership is the most over-rated advice people give. Do not buy on the promise "you can take the interest off on your taxes". It really doesn't help what you get back annually to make any difference.

This is a valid point DEPENDING on your income and the price range you're talking about.

Which, for wrangler00, looks like it will be the "lower end" of prices so it may very well apply.

However for those in higher prices the tax savings are pretty tremendous.
My loan was $300k, I'll pay something like $18k in interest this year. Way better than standard deduction.

You definitely have to consider all the associated costs though - repairs, upgrades, taxes, insurance, etc. The mortgage lenders and those online calculators never include property taxes and insurance, which together could add another 3% or so.

There are many thinsg in life you can just jump into. House buying IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
 
These two thoughts are kind of a juxtaposition, in my opinion.
A good HOA prevents the second scenario...and I am not aware of any HOA that allows anyone to pocket money....your results may vary

yeah well unfortunately this is the case here.

two foreclosures on my street alone, eight in the three/four streets around us. real estate signs went up in the two yards surrounding my home, homeowners trying to short sell. Didn’t work, cops show up with papers, crying babies, blah blah. So the homeowners leave. Yards were not touched. Hoa called 15 times in 40 days by the other residents, nothing.

Letter from lawyer that lives across from a couple of us with the other homeowners concerns ignored (those of us that take care of our homes asked him being a resident to draft a letter to hoa, he gladly did)

Real estate companies pulled their signs; no one is going to buy an 11 month old when it cost 8-10k less to build a new one. :rolleyes: lawyers for banks that are suing ex homeowners - now have legal doc's taped to front doors of several homes. We have all called the lawyers offices, they don’t claim responsibility to take care of yards, says this defaults to hoa. hoa says "uh, well get on that" a lot, we can only guess they spent their days in a circle jerk. they didnt do anything else so who knows?

So our hoa fee of 85 per month was SUPPOSED to be based on a club house (tv's, pool table, kitchen, entertain area, grills, etc) with a pool, jacuzzi. Also next to that are three lighted tennis courts and a small playground for those with kids. A year after the pool was supposed to be open construction started; it finally opened with cracked tile around the rim, pump failed twice and no pool chairs. Two small children cut the hell out of themselves. Sad.

But the hoa wants that check each month on time!! Oh yeah and the hoa promised monthly or bi monthly board meetings, have residents on the board, etc. BS. Never happened. So me being the shy quiet mofo I am, I spoke with the lawyer across the street and we decided to do some digging. They (the hoa) were not able to produce hardly any records, had a laptop with homeowners private bank info that was "stolen" etc etc etc fukin etc. from what anyone could tell about 9k was "missing".

So there is a new hoa, they are just as worthless. Have a group of thugs that live with their grandmother a street over that park their cars in the yards. mind you all homes had amazing sod yards when new... the street all in front of those two homes are covered in a gulf size oil slick, beer cans in the lot across from their house, their garage door is caved in and there is a dumpster in their driveway.

So no. hoa's don’t always protect people from shitbag's dragging down my hard earned month and property value. we have looked at selling and being new into the home we would take a 15k hit which at this point I’m willing to write the check, move 20 miles from the nearest area that any city could ever annex, buy some land and start over.

Oh and side note. We have a small condo in tamarindo costa rica. We have better security and neighbors there than here. People there take pride in their homes. and the hoa will fine the shit out of you if you mess it up for everyone else.

So thats my story. I sold my xj cause it was "stationary more than 30 days" which was bs. I drove it like twice a month but the hoa by-law called "an eye sore/vehicle in disrepear" sat on 36s, all glass, non chopped top, etc. leaked ZERO oil. i had tags on it and ins. wasnt worth the fight but big saggy 40oz pants up the street can leave his dunk or wtf ever they call their rubicon express lifted cop cars in their damn yard.

living the american dream...


edit = we quit paying the fee two months ago. they sent us a nice letter about a lein. yep, they can lean that shit all they want. the home has 23 years left on it. when they provide what they said they would they get money. there are 7 or 8 homes not paying anymore.
 
we quit paying the fee two months ago. they sent us a nice letter about a lein. yep, they can lean that shit all they want. the home has 23 years left on it. when they provide what they said they would they get money. there are 7 or 8 homes not paying anymore.

This is sure to end well...
 
edit = we quit paying the fee two months ago. they sent us a nice letter about a lein. yep, they can lean that shit all they want. the home has 23 years left on it. when they provide what they said they would they get money. there are 7 or 8 homes not paying anymore.


If your fire coverage was in those fees...don't burn any leaves.:rolleyes:
 
One bit of advice that someone told me and that I came to understand and agree with.

Don't buy your first house (or first few houses) because you "LOVE IT". As soon as you see a house and for whatever reason,you say, WOW I love this house, you're going to be more apt to over look issues and problems and not see the negative things about a house. next thing you know, you'll be over looking the house inspectors report about the foundation being in horrid condition or the pumping being shot, or the fact that there's no storage. whatever it may be.

keep that in mind and don't settle. remember, no one said you have to buy! just be sure to buy smart!
 
I guess I'm going against the grain here. I am currently a home owner and sometime time in earky 2011 I am going to put my house up for sale. If it sells, I am going to take my equity and pay cash something (even if it's a shit box). I f I can't pay cash for it, than I will rent someting in the $500 a month range. I personally think home ownership is the most over-rated advice people give. Do not buy on the promise "you can take the interest off on your taxes". It really doesn't help what you get back annually to make any difference. I make a $877 payment each month by myself on a $36,000 (gross) income. My withholdings are single-one dependant (myself). This is also how I file at year end. With interest, taxes, fed withholdings and property taxes I usually itemize around $12,500. Last year, I got back $800. If I would have taken the standard deduction, I would have gotten back $550. At the end of my loan (30 yaers) I will have payed back almost tripple what I borrwed. I f would try to then sell my house for what I payed on the loan, I would most likely only be able to get it if I put another $50,000 in remoldeling to bring it up to the style 30 years from now. If I rent for $500 a month I will save $135,720 in interest alone over 30 years not counting property taxes, up keep, water heater going out, roof replaced, etc. If the rent is decent and you like the location, stay there and let the home owner fix everything that goes wrong in the house.
I'm a real estate broker/contractor/landlord so I see all sides of home ownership and have tried to explain to people this same concept but most do not agree. I own multiple houses and the one I really hate to work on or put any money into is the one I live in for the simple fact this house has no return. I'm sinking about 10k into a house as we speak but I know in less than 18 months I will have my investment back and will make good money and still have a nice house. People get to attached to bricks and wood and they pay the price in the long run when a man really only needs a bed and a head to live.
 
Pi$$ on ANY AND ALL HOA's You are paying someone to tell you what you can and can't do with the home YOU are paying the mortgage on! FFFFFF THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Had one at the townhouse we had in Raleigh. They were supposed to take care of the pool grounds etc. After the first year, the pool closed after being open a month and was closed for the rest of that summer and the next. All because the builder was fighting about paying for the lots that were still owned by him (Not built on yet) and the management company stopped paying the bill. Quit paying for the lawn care too. It was a huge mess and the homeowners finally got together and fixed it but by then it was too late for that years pool season. I could give a shit about how my neighbors house looks. It's HIS land the HE is paying the mortgage on. When I move into a place I make sure the LOCATION is right. (Preferably NO neighbors in sight, no main road close no interstate remotely close etc.)
 
Pi$$ on ANY AND ALL HOA's
Had the exact same experience when I lived in Wake Forest,I would avoid HOA like the plague.Specially if you are a Wheeler.I hit it off wrong with the woman who was the president of ours when we moved into the neighborhood and it was Hell after that.She got me one time like 1/4 over my max grass height or something and sent a crew out to mow my lawn,sent me the bill.I also got a fine for taking out the Dying bushes under my living window and replacing them with a flower bed.I have never had anything other than bad experiences.
 
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