Lots of interesting news today

ManglerYJ

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I can assure you public schools are not built fancy.

I do think that school meals should be free though.


Didn't use to be. I used to think that all County schools were built the same until they built Oak Grove High School. When you have your school logo laser cut into the trash cans, you fancy.
 

CasterTroy

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Didn't use to be. I used to think that all County schools were built the same until they built Oak Grove High School. When you have your school logo laser cut into the trash cans, you fancy.
I actually designed the mechanical and plumbing on that job
According to Davidson county schools maint dept that school generates more tickets for service than all Davidson county schools combined for leaks and issues (site wise.. thank heavens not inside)

Samet truly screwed the pooch on that school
It also has the most funding than any other school in Davidson county (see tax base and PTA)
 

benXJ

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No offense man but your personal experience bias is showing.

I mentor kids every day who have no idea what these things you speak of even mean.

What if you grow up in an apartment and there are no yards to mow. Not that you could anyway because no one you know has EVER owned a lawn mower.
Everyone around you has lived in the same spot your entire life because they know no different. No one is moving.

He's 14 in your example. He cant rive has never owned a bicycle, or learned to ride one, he can only go where he walks. Has no tools or skills.

But man, this due a few years older said you could run some weed for him and make a couple hundred quick. If you are real enough they might let you carry the good stuff in a month or two...


The point is to STOP this cycle....


It's why I have volunteered hundreds of hours to Big Brothers and Big Sisters, Call Me Mr., and Habitat for Humanity.

Psalm 82
Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.” They have neither knowledge nor understanding, they walk about in darkness;
You literally proved my point ...kid is out making money. He's making $400 a day....he needs me to keep paying for his school lunch?

I'm not talking about absentee parents or whatever for every single kid. Shitty parents is a whole other story. The douchebag congressman is advocating for every single kid to get free breakfast and lunch because inflation. Im poorer too Mr . Man.
 

benXJ

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I'd be less poorer Mr. Sir if you had bought my $20 wheel you had me dig out from my parts pile at the parents house that's been sitting at my house for going on 3weeks now waiting for @Ron ... Whyy'all tryna hold me down? 🤣
Ha. This is true.

Coordinating with 2 people states away just didn't work out....as happens often.
 

JSJJ388

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I can assure you public schools are not built fancy.

I do think that school meals should be free though.

Public schools are built stupid fancy. I know, because I build them. Do they really need a million dollar monumental entry stair that is all stainless steel with terrazzo treads and glass rails?
 

Ron

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Ha. This is true.

Coordinating with 2 people states away just didn't work out....as happens often.
Shrug.
About a year ago I wanted couple things a couple states away and @Silverado_Express made the run bought a few things he needed and brought them to me. Even argued with me about paying him .

Wasn’t that hard.

But shit happens.

Does seem to be quite the self centered theme here that is emerging.

A wise man once told me, when someone tells you who they are - shut up and listen.
 

ManglerYJ

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I actually designed the mechanical and plumbing on that job
According to Davidson county schools maint dept that school generates more tickets for service than all Davidson county schools combined for leaks and issues (site wise.. thank heavens not inside)

Samet truly screwed the pooch on that school
It also has the most funding than any other school in Davidson county (see tax base and PTA)


I don't doubt it. A good friend of mine from church is the head custodian there. He has some stories for sure. It just pisses me off that there is still asbestos insulation falling down at Central that they can't/won't fix but we got money for laser cut trash cans for Oak Grove. North Davidson used to be the crown jewel, but now that Oak Grove is the king of the tax hill, they will fall by the wayside, too.
 

orange150

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Guess I’m just jaded from building schools on the CM side for the past six years at my previous employer and seeing all the finishes and components we had to VE out in order to meet the county’s budget.

The schools I did in Hendersonville, Chapel Hill, and Durham were pretty nice though.
 

Southern_Transplant

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You literally proved my point ...kid is out making money. He's making $400 a day....he needs me to keep paying for his school lunch?

I'm not talking about absentee parents or whatever for every single kid. Shitty parents is a whole other story. The douchebag congressman is advocating for every single kid to get free breakfast and lunch because inflation. Im poorer too Mr . Man.
I understand what @RatLabGuy is saying and pushing the fact that kids don't get to pick their circumstances or parents.

But @benXJ is right in calling out an over arching entitlement program that was put in place as a broad measure because of a rapid and temporary need. That need as it may have existed is over. There are programs in place for underprivileged kids for lunch programs. If we need to relook them, great. Let's be honest about what permanent entitlement program we are expanding.

Let's also be honest about addressing the real issue of why these kids aren't getting the nutrition and support they need from the proper place, their home.
If we don't do this, we are creating a long term problem where these kids think it's normal that the government is their mommy and daddy.
 

zuke

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I understand what @RatLabGuy is saying and pushing the fact that kids don't get to pick their circumstances or parents.

But @benXJ is right in calling out an over arching entitlement program that was put in place as a broad measure because of a rapid and temporary need. That need as it may have existed is over. There are programs in place for underprivileged kids for lunch programs. If we need to relook them, great. Let's be honest about what permanent entitlement program we are expanding.

Let's also be honest about addressing the real issue of why these kids aren't getting the nutrition and support they need from the proper place, their home.
If we don't do this, we are creating a long term problem where these kids think it's normal that the government is their mommy and daddy.

The left keeps adding to Inalienable Rights, Not sure when I first heard that "Healthcare is a Right" and recently I've heard "Eating is a Right"....

No, no they are not.. the closest we get is "“life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”..

"happiness" is a right, But you have to pursue it for yourself, this is where Food, Healthcare and Self Defense all fall here... You have a right to access but must pursue them, but you must obtain your own means, be it a Pizza, Doctor, or an AR15....

this is not what we are teaching our children though :(
 

ponykilr

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The left keeps adding to Inalienable Rights, Not sure when I first heard that "Healthcare is a Right" and recently I've heard "Eating is a Right"....

No, no they are not.. the closest we get is "“life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”..

"happiness" is a right, But you have to pursue it for yourself, this is where Food, Healthcare and Self Defense all fall here... You have a right to access but must pursue them, but you must obtain your own means, be it a Pizza, Doctor, or an AR15....

this is not what we are teaching our children though :(
Correct, rights as far as the BOR is concerned are negative. They detail what the government cannot infringe upon.

But the term “human rights” has been used to push for ever increasing entitlements.

Government largesse is a cancer.
 

JSJJ388

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ponykilr

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ManglerYJ

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woo hoo! took em long enough.



I am perplexed that both sides claim that they have read the Constitution and one side says the NY Law is unconstitutional and the other says that overturning it is unconstitutional. Unless maybe one side doesn't actually give a rat's patooty about the Constitution.

Think About It Reaction GIF by Identity
 

zuke

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I am perplexed that both sides claim that they have read the Constitution and one side says the NY Law is unconstitutional and the other says that overturning it is unconstitutional. Unless maybe one side doesn't actually give a rat's patooty about the Constitution.

You're half right about ONE side not caring about the constitution.... Both sides only care about their constituents interpretation of the constitution, and staying in office..
 

ManglerYJ

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You're half right about ONE side not caring about the constitution.... Both sides only care about their constituents interpretation of the constitution, and staying in office..


I personally never felt like "shall not be infringed" needed any interpretation. But that's just me.
 

Southern_Transplant

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I personally never felt like "shall not be infringed" needed any interpretation. But that's just me.
That is a problem with the anti-personal defense arguments. They couldn't all agree on which part of the 2A was being misinterpreted. Biden's famous "you couldn't own a cannon" argument was blown out of the water (all pun intended).

For the sake of argument, the only legitimate question that could be raised was the argument about militias and their context at the time of the 2A. The prevailing argument they make is that the 2A was about states rights to defend against a federal standing army.

There is just one little flaw with their current interpretation of the militia context. If you honestly believe that the 2A was about defending a states right to defend against a federal standing army, I will stand by and hear your plan to pay the Southern States for the violation of their rights in 1861 when said federal army invaded them.
 

ponykilr

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RatLabGuy

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Southern_Transplant

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Worst idea ever
I wonder if they could do it with an ex-spouse voice over.

That way whenever Alexa randomly butts in to a conversation to give you unneeded advice or commentary, you could tell her to STFU and feel a little smile on the inside....
 

RatLabGuy

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I wonder if they could do it with an ex-spouse voice over.

That way whenever Alexa randomly butts in to a conversation to give you unneeded advice or commentary, you could tell her to STFU and feel a little smile on the inside....
Can you change Alexa's name? That would be the ultimate combo
 

DSM Turbos

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The left keeps adding to Inalienable Rights, Not sure when I first heard that "Healthcare is a Right" and recently I've heard "Eating is a Right"....

No, no they are not.. the closest we get is "“life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”..

"happiness" is a right, But you have to pursue it for yourself, this is where Food, Healthcare and Self Defense all fall here... You have a right to access but must pursue them, but you must obtain your own means, be it a Pizza, Doctor, or an AR15....

this is not what we are teaching our children though :(

I disagree with the healthcare, not everybody has health issues due to life choices.
Heathcare isn't a right based on the constitution, but with how much money this country spends on bullshit, healthcare improvements should be a better thing.
There is 0 reason that I get better healthcare for my type 1 diabetes then somebody struggling to make ends meet. I'm fortunate I can afford all the technology to keep me healthy, and all the medications I need but this stuff is not cheap, even with insurance.
A family shouldn't have to decide if they can pay for their childs cancer treatment or pay their mortgage.

Your mind probably won't be changed by this, and mine either though.
 
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