NC Secretary of State Letters...

SHINTON

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I know we have lots of small business owners on here, guys who opened up their own shop, etc. So in case you are one of the 270,000 NC Small Biz owners who got a letter in the last couple of weeks, I wanted to follow up here and let you know what is going on and how to handle it.

First of all, this is a MONEY grab by the state, they make the laws and therefore they can choose to interpret them the way they want, etc.

Previously, when you created a small biz in NC, as a LLC, or S-Corporation, etc and you filed with the NC SOS, you would pay your initial filing fee for that first year and you were in good shape.

Then in your second fiscal year (first full year of business) you would follow up with an annual report and pay that fee to the NC SOS.

NOW, what has happened is they figured out that they can ALSO force these small business owners to ALSO file another annual report for their initial year of business!!

One of my clients formed 12/30 and they paid their $125 fee to file their article of incorporation. Then the following year they filed and paid their $25 annual report fee. They continued to pay that fee annually for the last 10 years, on time + their franchise taxes, etc.

NOW, the state is sending a letter of NOTICE OF GROUNDS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE DISSOLUTION OF: (Insert Hard working Citizen here)

So, HOW do you fix this?

http://www.secretary.state.nc.us/corporations/CSearch.aspx

Start there and search for and find your business

Look for the link that says PRINT PRE-POPULATED FORM, it will open up a nice Adobe PDF of your business annual report.

Print out that form...in the upper left corner there is a place for FISCAL YEAR. You will want to insert the fiscal year end date of your business (for the short year)

So lets assume your business filed / was accepted as corporation by the NC SOS on 12/15/2001, you would insert 12/31/2001 as your FISCAL YEAR date on this form.

You will then insert a check for $25 and mail this form, a copy of the original letter you received from them to NC SOS address on that form.

This should clear you up, and MUST be done with 60 days of the notice of that letter!!!


One other item to look at while you are on that page, is the link that says ANNUAL REPORT COUNT. That should list all your previous filings by YEAR!! I would print this out for your own records too.


ONE FINAL NOTE... in theory you can file online for $20 instead of writing them a check. I think there is a $2 processing fee for that though...plus I am not 100% sure they will apply that to the appropriate year (See FISCAL YEAR paragraphs above)

I hope this helps, NC SOS is swamped (duh, send out 270k letters expect 270k + phone calls...)

You can email me if you need a quick question answered, I am not on here very much

jeepnerd AT triad.rr.com

Thanks for doing your civic duty, I am sure the state appreciates it!!!!! :)

Sam
 
I opened a LLC in October of 2009 and just recieved a post card for filing my annual report by April 15th 2010. The fee is $200 not $25, is this right?

LLCs are $200.. and let me type this directly from the form I have in front of me...

"For LLCs that were formed before April 15th of a year, the LLC owes an annual report for the year of their formation."

So this would seem to indicate that since you formed in October of 2009, you are NOT required to file a 2009 annual report!!


(The reason LLCs pay $200 is because you do not owe franchise taxes, unless you chose to ALSO be a S-corp. Then you get the double whammy!!)
 
Thanks Bev & those waiting on a handout! :fuck-you:

270,000 x $25 = soaking business owners (those *producing* income, rather than those wanting it given to them) for $6.75million to keep the welfare dole afloat :rolleyes:
 
LLCs are $200.. and let me type this directly from the form I have in front of me...

"For LLCs that were formed before April 15th of a year, the LLC owes an annual report for the year of their formation."

So this would seem to indicate that since you formed in October of 2009, you are NOT required to file a 2009 annual report!!


(The reason LLCs pay $200 is because you do not owe franchise taxes, unless you chose to ALSO be a S-corp. Then you get the double whammy!!)

Man thanks!!! You were correct, I just got off the phone with SoS to double check. You saved my $200, I owe you several beers. She did say that if I were to pay the $200 and not actually owed money that it would have been treated like a donation to the SoS and not refunded or returned...total bs. Thanks again.
 
... and not actually owed money that it would have been treated like a donation to the SoS and not refunded or returned...total bs..

sounds like my 2009 NC personal tax return....still waiting for the refund. I've already dialed back my with-holdings this year, I wanna pay in april 2011.
 
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