Need ideas for back of Jeep

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OK, my Jeep is set up so that I can haul tools, 2 pane tanks two batteries a spare, spare tie rod, drag link, and drive shafts. and tools, oh and the cooler. What I have found, it is not easy to get to anything. Changing tanks is a real pita, and everything else you have to climb to get to. Constant straping and unstraping. So, what I want to do is take tub, bars everything down to the frame and re do it all.

I am looking for ideas, pictures a plus on how to organize the rear of my Jeep. I plan on cutting it so as to make it a hald cab.

Thanks
Chip
 
Make some sort of a rack to go above the tanks, but mount it on a hinge. That way, you can strap stuff to the rack, but when you need to get to the tanks or anything around the tanks, all you have to do is lift up the rack. Make some way of holding it up (and down) also (prop rod, hitch pin, etc.)

I am thinking about doing something similar that I can bolt on above my spare tire, and it will swing to the side via the bolts it is bolted on with. Basically just to give me room for firewood/cooler etc.
 
Rich had some pretty neat compartments w/ gas struts on the lids like you were saying. See if he has any ideas..
 
yeah I saw Rich's stuff, looks good. I have a rack now, but it's just not easy undoing it, flipping it back and crawling around to change the tanks. Plus my rack now has my spares in it, stubs, ujoints fluids and so on and it's heavy! so trying to get it to where I can get to everything and not have to unload and load all the time. I am thinking of inboarding my spare and batteries. the things I don't use often, Maybe having the tanks where I can slide them in from the end or the side
 
Hey Chip, Might be easier to just put a front axle & tcase in the bus :) Could probably even fab up some kinda lift apparatus to make it easy to get to the underside of rigs you're working on!
 
You guys crack me up... build a rack, with hatch struts.. where have I seen that before? LOL

Anyway,chip... Move stuff around! Driveshafts can be stored under or around the rig, tie rod & drag links can be attached to the b-pillar of your cage, etc... Since you've got 2 batteries in the rear, I'd bet there's room under the hood...

You're right on about things you don't need going to the hardest to reach areas. Ever change your battery out on the trail? yeah, didn't think so.. People gave Greg Slade a hard time about his spare tire location.. but it gets the weight forward, and dear god, you run Boggers, how many have you cut? The cooler should be easy to reach though.

I will agree with you though, the tanks would be a royal pain in the ass to change if I couldn't slide them out the back...

Maybe take an arial shot of the room we have to work with?
 
I think I have most of it figured out. Gonna cut the body off just behind the seats, leaving room for the two batteries. ANd to answer you Rich, no, there is no room under the hood. There are two batteries up there already. I don't think I would be changing batteries on the trail, but I do have to be able to reach them, turn my disconnects to set it up for my 24 hookup fr the Ready Welder. Just above the batteries I will attach the spare drive shafts, and drag link, maybe even my tie rod. I will be adding some triangles there for support. A centered mount comming off that also for the spare. ( kinda like what Greg has yes)
New hoops from the center of the cage to the rear of the Jeep. My tanks behind the spare sliding in from the rear. Air tank just forward of the rear diff between frame rails, plumbed to the outside. Fenders from center of cage to the rear of the top hoops. Shocks going through the fender area so the are mounted up and down not forward as they are now. Hopefuly reducing my pogo effect. mount tool boxes on fenders for spares, tools, air tools, and recovery gear. I think I will have room on the very back to strap on the cooler. These are just ideas, we'll see how it works out once I-lean goes under the knife
 
Not really helpful with your "too much stuff" situation...but on the topic of halfcabs, this has always been one of my favorite rigs...maybe you could do something like this?
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Or you could just start out with a 45 or eb rather than a cj...? :flipoff2:
 
sounds like your jeep weighs about 10,000 lbs. cutting down on some weight might help you a little. have you ever looked at moorefield's cruiser, he is very creative with the placement of spares. if you have a lot of space you carry more junk, the less space you have the more creative you are ,and you also carry less junk that you never use. take every thing out of the jeep and lay it out in the driveway and start weeding things out that you never use. just my .02
 
A neat idea I saw a guy do in a mag somewhere... He wanted to keep his spare dshaft outta the way and from flopping around, so he took a spare yoke and flange and welded them to the side of the cage and the floor respectively. He just then bolted the shaft in between. ;)
 
I agree, when I built my buggy i reaklized I don't have room for much... I thinned out my shit considerably. I leave my spare on the trailer along with a big box of May need this if type stuff. carry a spare rear d-shaft qand both front spare shafts on a piece of steel mesh between frame rails behind/below the seats, and a box of spares and tools on the back. Also, do you tend to wheel with the samre people most of the time? Chances are you have so much redundent stuff on board. My wheeloin buddy and I split the toos we carry and now we drag a lot less shit on the trail. HTH,,, I also want to see pics of the half cab project. dave
 
a 48" hi lift fits perfect above the frame rails and the tub on mine in the foward part of the rear fenderwell. your rear is stretched so the tire should not get into it. I agree with 35 xj , split the odd ball tools up so that no one person is carrying everything. going prepared is one thing but don't go prepared to fix everyones rig.
 
I'll be the first to admitt, I do carry a lot of stuff. From tools, to spares. My list has come from what I have broke, and what I have seen broke, and a way to fix it. It would make since for each of my buddies to carry certain tools, But, on the other hand, Ken may be 100 yards ahead on the trail up and over an obsticle and I may be behind a rig that's just broke. So to keep it simple, I carry, well, as many are saying, a toolshop. I want to keep what I carry, just easier to get to is all.

Dave, yes, I have seen Moorefields Cruiser, he has utilized space verywell on his rig. I like the mid mounted winch to work for the front or the rear!

Keep it comming guys. I like hearing the ideas, even if I don't agree with them all
 
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well, yeah, kinda sorta. After seeing how easy you get to everything it give me motivation to change.
 
I LOVE my Tuffy slide out tool drawer in the back... I wouldn't have ever bought one new, but thx to Luke I got a deal on it. Since you are a welder, I would look into just buying a set of heavy duty drawer slides and making your own!

http://www.spdhardware.com/ds1.htm

Heck...what would be perfect is take your tools and "stack" them in 3D, figure out what kind of room they would take if you built a "mini" toolbox with multiple drawers? (One for the RW, one for "tools", ujoints and misc, clevis/straps, etc)

"Weigh" each drawer contents to see how much of a "heavy duty" slide you need and buy it. (In other words you don't need a 150lbs $$$$ rated slide for 20 lbs of tools)

Another thought here is to simply buy a "cheap" toolbox with drawers from Walmart, etc and cut it up to fit?

Anyway, just a thought! I know I love my drawer in the back...I lock it and I am "less" worried about my tools getting stolen.

Oh yeah, Propane tanks...how about mounting them directly behind the cab (seats), sideways, where you pull them out to the drivers side instead of towards the back...leaves more room in back for tools. You have TONS of clearance between the rear wheels and your cab is what makes me think this.

Sam
 
Sideways would allow the tanks to starve for fuel when off camber to one side, if they are kinda low...

Of course, with how long the thing runs after the valves are shut off, it might not matter.

O/T - the guy on the alternative fuel board is giving me a huge rash of shit for using fork bottles in a vehicle... :rolleyes:
 
Rich said:
O/T - the guy on the alternative fuel board is giving me a huge rash of shit for using fork bottles in a vehicle... :rolleyes:
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Not to hijack the thread - but WHY is this a problem in an ORV ?

:confused:
 
OFFTOPIC: are you kidding me about the fork tanks? Ive driven a fork truck, have you seen how those machines get operated ? I'd think they'd be safer :)

ONTOPIC: I don't like drawers becasue never fail ill need access when its tiped the wrong way or on a hill or rock etc..

Chip I have a bin like you have there already, I plan to add a 2nd one and put a few dividers in it.. I like to use softsided bags and simple pile em in the bins...

What big stuff are you looking to stack in there?
 
http://fuelsforum.rasoenterprises.com/viewtopic.php?t=113

Mostly, it's the AMSE certified tanks being thicker walled, better able to withstand impacts, etc...

Chip.. it doesn't look like tubing out the back will gain you a ton of room, but you'll certainly be able to get the tanks in and out easier by putting them at the rear.

There was a thread I started about space management. Check out the buggy that split the tank clamps in 2.. pretty slick, and would make getting them out easier for you...
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=365788&highlight=space+management
 
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