new fords

I saw a test mule here in town about a month ago. Looked REALLY good. 450 CC, dually ps. The guy driving (filling with diesel) didn't want to talk much, wasn't letting me under the hood either:flipoff2:
 
Just when you thought they couldn't get any worse looking.. Can you say "Family truckster"??

I love this-
"Cabs may require removal to allow R&R of the
diesel engine. Wire harnesses and other aftermarket
modifications should be designed so the
cab can be removed for engine removal and
installation."

"transmission external oil filter is
replaced by a High Efficiency Sump Filter
(HESF) located inside the transmission bottom
pan. The new filter doubles the miles between
replacement intervals (60,000 miles versus
30,000 miles) to reduce service costs."

WTF?? Take something 4x as easy to change, but make it last 2x as long. Nice job, Ford.

And then there's this:
"A water cooled, heat exchanger for fuel cooling
and electric pump system helps maintain optimum
fuel density.
An independent active fuel cooling system is
used with the 6.4L Power Stroke® engine to
help maintain fuel density to the injectors and
provide fuel pump lubrication. Fuel cooling is
required due to the engine’s new High Pressure
Common Rail (HPCR) fuel supply system.
The vehicle must not be operated without a
properly functioning fuel cooling system."

Overly complex, no one else uses it despite everyone now using HPCR injection...

"New diesel emissions requirements for CY 2007
and beyond require the use of a Diesel
Particulate Filter (DPF). The 6.4L Super Duty
uses a Diesel Oxidation Catalyst (DOC), which
mates with the DPF to meet new emissions
standards. The resonator/tailpipe assembly has
a functional twin tip diffuser which should not be
modified. It works in conjunction with the
DPF/DOC assembly to reduce outlet exhaust
gas temperature." -

Read to say - hot as hell EGT's

They even say how welding a crossmember is lighter than a rivet.. on a 8000lb truck?!?!?

wow...
 
Rich said:
And then there's this:
"A water cooled, heat exchanger for fuel cooling
and electric pump system helps maintain optimum
fuel density.
An independent active fuel cooling system is
used with the 6.4L Power Stroke® engine to
help maintain fuel density to the injectors and
provide fuel pump lubrication. Fuel cooling is
required due to the engine’s new High Pressure
Common Rail (HPCR) fuel supply system.
The vehicle must not be operated without a
properly functioning fuel cooling system."

Overly complex, no one else uses it despite everyone now using HPCR injection...
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Not true, while the cooler is not water jacketed, the Duramax has used a fuel cooler since it's introduction, fluid/air cooler mounted just forward of the fuel tank, cools return fuel before it re-enters tank.

the pressures the fuel is subjected to anymore REALLY heats fuel up, Duramax started with a max PSI of 22600 psi in the LB7, LLY was 26500, max pressur eon the LBZ is slightly higher, know nothing about the upcoming LMM.

the increasing fuel pressure helps to better atomize fuel when injector fires. While it is REALLY putting a load on the internal parts of said injectors.

I would suspect Cummins, Navistar, CAT, and the rest are using similar technology to combat the high fuel temps, and still be emmissions compliant.

It'll get crazier from here.
 
Blkvoodoo said:
Not true, while the cooler is not water jacketed, the Duramax has used a fuel cooler since it's introduction, fluid/air cooler mounted just forward of the fuel tank, cools return fuel before it re-enters tank.
the pressures the fuel is subjected to anymore REALLY heats fuel up, Duramax started with a max PSI of 22600 psi in the LB7, LLY was 26500, max pressur eon the LBZ is slightly higher, know nothing about the upcoming LMM.
the increasing fuel pressure helps to better atomize fuel when injector fires. While it is REALLY putting a load on the internal parts of said injectors.
I would suspect Cummins, Navistar, CAT, and the rest are using similar technology to combat the high fuel temps, and still be emmissions compliant.
It'll get crazier from here.
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Yeah, but theirs is WAY more complex, up front, electric motor, etc.. that was what I was saying..
 
yeah, I can see that, FORD has always made the simple things WAY more complex than it needs to be.
 
Rich said:
I love this-
"Cabs may require removal to allow R&R of the
diesel engine. Wire harnesses and other aftermarket
modifications should be designed so the
cab can be removed for engine removal and
installation."

"transmission external oil filter is
replaced by a High Efficiency Sump Filter
(HESF) located inside the transmission bottom
pan. The new filter doubles the miles between
replacement intervals (60,000 miles versus
30,000 miles) to reduce service costs."
WTF?? Take something 4x as easy to change, but make it last 2x as long.

wow...
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those are the things i noticed right off. going back to a filter in pan, why??

and i gotta pull the whole cab to pull the engine WTF!!
 
I'll be on the list to buy one.

I won't be R&R 'ing the diesel when Im done anyway so I wouldn't care how long it takes to change a engine, thats why they take trade-ins.

I like it better than the other two from the big three IMO

They just released pricing info from my local dealer, so we'll see how long the wait will be...
 
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