new wheeling group has formed...

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ord.sgt.26NC

ord.sgt.26NC

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I am just putting out a formal announcment that the wheeling group 4x4everyone has been formed. After putting up with the "go big or go home" attitudes for years from different clubs,organizations,and websites,we felt the time was right to start a group of stock or near stock rigs with drivers that have a similar belief in the old time ideas of trail riding.This is not a paid club nor do we have officers.Everybody is welcome to ride along with us but we are mainly here for vehicles with a MAX tire size of 33 inches or smaller.Our other "mission" is to school people new to the hobby.

We have a area set up in the club section here on NC4x4 and if you are interrested in a new club with old time values and also being family friendly, sign up and check us out. Right now we have over a dozen folks signed in and our first organised trip will be UNF on labor day weekend.

Jimmy Jones(ord.sgt.26NC) and Nellie Belle
 
Chris,even tho we have talked about doing it over the past year,it finally came together a week and a half ago.Still got bugs to work out.No logo as yet.Web site is here on NC4x4,state wide organisation so no headquarters,contact info is either me or Rox/Mud for right now.No dues. Might want to waite a little while before putting us in the actual club sticky and let us get things worked out more.
 
If my 35's measure 33" can I still hang out? Just asking Jimmy
 
This is a great idea, glad to see it coming together for you guys. I remember how fun things were when it was just about trail riding and hanging out, not about "go big or go home". Once you start down the big tire route, there's no turning back until you sell the vehicle!
 
thank you Matt.You got the idea. Steve,you know you can ride with me anytime you want friend. I hope you let me do the same with you.We need to get together at Callalente sometime.Xlain,you didn't read what I wrote.I said anybody can ride with us.Just don't expect us to sit at Kodak 2 hours and watch somebody attempt the same lines over and over.Plenty of groups for that kind of wheeling.
 
Sounds pretty cool but what area will you be meeting & wheel-in?
 
Maybe I should buy a set of 33"s
 
I question the tire size limit?

I have 38's yet I trail ride and just hang out and have fun and a lot of the times I take the by passes around the hard stuff..
Reason: I have a 2 year old that rides with me and if he is with me which seems like every ride now I will not do the hard stuff. and I am sure there are lots of other built rigs in same situation as myself.

And there have been many times where I left my rig at camp and hoped in passenger seats with a brand new person to trail riding so I could help them learn to wheel. And trust me if you want to help new people ride with them as a passenger.. it is 100 times better then a cb or just having them follow you and then you get out when they get stuck..

just my .02
 
BRUISER said:
I question the tire size limit?

I have 38's yet I trail ride and just hang out and have fun and a lot of the times I take the by passes around the hard stuff..
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I don't think any of you guys read what he wrote. :lol:

ord.sgt.26NC said:
Everybody is welcome to ride along with us but we are mainly here for vehicles with a MAX tire size of 33 inches or smaller.Our other "mission" is to school people new to the hobby.
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So you and your 38s are more than welcome to ride along, but the emphasis is on learning how to take near-stock vehicles through a challenging trail.
 
I am a member of the big tire group, or at least 44's used to be big. I like the hard stuff, but not too keen on being classified as having the attitude of "go big or go home". I started out on 235's that were re-capped mud/snow tires. I trail ride with a little of everyone. True, sometimes it just don't make sense for a rig with 33's to follow along with me, but there is nothing preventing me from following a group with 33's or less. And yes, it does happen that a group of big tires, play around on an obstacle. More often than not, I have sit in line, sometimes for hours, yes hours, behind a group of lesser built rigs that were on a trail that they were not prepared for.
I belong to two different clubs myself. Carolina Trail Blazers We have some very mild built rigs and we have some near stock. We go to some places that a stocker shouldn't go, and we go to some places that some of us are way over built. In other words, a variety.
I also belong to Rock Corps 4X4 LLC, we leased a piece of property, and have developed it so as ALL rig types can have a great day of fun. This was intentional.
So with your group, I wish you the best, just ask that you don't hate us because some of us went big.
 
upnover said:
I am a member of the big tire group, or at least 44's used to be big. I like the hard stuff, but not too keen on being classified as having the attitude of "go big or go home". I started out on 235's that were re-capped mud/snow tires. I trail ride with a little of everyone. True, sometimes it just don't make sense for a rig with 33's to follow along with me, but there is nothing preventing me from following a group with 33's or less. And yes, it does happen that a group of big tires, play around on an obstacle. More often than not, I have sit in line, sometimes for hours, yes hours, behind a group of lesser built rigs that were on a trail that they were not prepared for.
I belong to two different clubs myself. Carolina Trail Blazers We have some very mild built rigs and we have some near stock. We go to some places that a stocker shouldn't go, and we go to some places that some of us are way over built. In other words, a variety.
I also belong to Rock Corps 4X4 LLC, we leased a piece of property, and have developed it so as ALL rig types can have a great day of fun. This was intentional.
So with your group, I wish you the best, just ask that you don't hate us because some of us went big.
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+1, not nearly as big as chip, but not going into the 33 class either.

More often than not, I have sit in line, sometimes for hours, yes hours, behind a group of lesser built rigs that were on a trail that they were not prepared for.

Ditto... Normally the posers who stop every 10 feet and take new pictures.

Seems like a cool idea, be prepared for alot of Highschool age folks, new to the sport.
 
I like what you are doing as far as being oriented toward the milder side of things, but limiting tire size may not be the way to do it. Personally, I like to trail ride far better than playing on the rocks, and I don't care much for the extreme stuff. I might like to ride with you sometime, but since I run 35s I wouldn't be welcome. As an example, I rode with the BDB over the 4th of July and had an absolute blast. These guys are about as extreme as it gets, but they also seem to enjoy some dirt under their tires too. They may have kept it mild just for me, but I don't really think so. I think if you would just limit the difficulty level of your planned rides you would still get your desired result.
 
I think it's great! :beer:

I didn't get the impression that it is about excluding anyone but letting newer folks get their feet wet. Even if there isn't 'attitude,' folks can be a little intimidated by big/tricked out rigs that are obviously more capable. You gotta learn how to wheel somewhere... and better to know how it all works before you start modifying your junk.

If there's a general guideline of max. tire size, it seems to be just so everyone knows not to expect but so much difficulty. Doesn't mean the guys sitting on 44s can't enjoy a little old-fashioned 'trail riding' too.
 
I agree with Chip. Not everyone with big tires has that kind of attitude. However, the majority is usually like that. I used to be and still like a good challenge but I've noticed in my old age (32) that I take it a little easier.

I started out on 33s and I had a great time. I wish your club the best of luck.
 
I think it's a cool idea. I know some people can be intimidated by the big tire/buggy crowd. Way to get them started in the sport.
 
I really like this idea. And to tell the truth, I get what you're saying about the 'go big or go home' guys. I know not all of them are like that, but more often than not I get the impression that my rigs aren't as good as 'theirs' so I'm not worth 'their' time. On the flip side, I'm sure 'they' get just as irritated with guys that block them from running a trail.


I'd also like to point out I think this is a great idea for guys like me...not necessarily newbies to wheeling, but doesn't have a dedicated rig to beat to hell, so he (I) stay out of most clubs because I'll be left in the dust or won't want to ride with the others because you know you'll come back with body damage.


Anyway...my rigs ride on 35-38's, beyond the lift and tires and some engine work, mainly stock, only one has a locker. So slightly more capable than stock, but nowhere near what big guys are running. So I appreciate groups like this and I look forward to seeing where it will go.




Disclaimer...I used quotes to denote a gross generalization, not trying to cause a divide or a us/them debate.
 
ord.sgt.26NC said:
I am just putting out a formal announcment that the wheeling group 4x4everyone has been formed. After putting up with the "go big or go home" attitudes for years from different clubs,organizations,and websites,we felt the time was right to start a group of stock or near stock rigs with drivers that have a similar belief in the old time ideas of trail riding.This is not a paid club nor do we have officers.Everybody is welcome to ride along with us but we are mainly here for vehicles with a MAX tire size of 33 inches or smaller.Our other "mission" is to school people new to the hobby.
We have a area set up in the club section here on NC4x4 and if you are interested in a new club with old time values and also being family friendly, sign up and check us out. Right now we have over a dozen folks signed in and our first organized trip will be UNF on labor day weekend.
Jimmy Jones(ord.sgt.26NC) and Nellie Belle
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We put the size suggestion in place to let people know what type of wheeling to expect from the group. No one will be excluded, EVERYONE can ride with us, but be prepared for the type of wheeling we plan on doing.
mmcj7 said:
Sounds pretty cool but what area will you be meeting & wheel-in?
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This group is from all across the state so the only meetings we will have is online or on during trail rides.
BRUISER said:
I question the tire size limit?
I have 38's yet I trail ride and just hang out and have fun and a lot of the times I take the by passes around the hard stuff..
Reason: I have a 2 year old that rides with me and if he is with me which seems like every ride now I will not do the hard stuff. and I am sure there are lots of other built rigs in same situation as myself.
And there have been many times where I left my rig at camp and hoped in passenger seats with a brand new person to trail riding so I could help them learn to wheel. And trust me if you want to help new people ride with them as a passenger.. it is 100 times better then a cb or just having them follow you and then you get out when they get stuck..
just my .02
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The point of the size limit is simply to point out this group is not going to be the kind that wants to exceed that tire size not that bigger tires aren't allowed.
upnover said:
I am a member of the big tire group, or at least 44's used to be big. I like the hard stuff, but not too keen on being classified as having the attitude of "go big or go home". I started out on 235's that were re-capped mud/snow tires. I trail ride with a little of everyone. True, sometimes it just don't make sense for a rig with 33's to follow along with me, but there is nothing preventing me from following a group with 33's or less. And yes, it does happen that a group of big tires, play around on an obstacle. More often than not, I have sit in line, sometimes for hours, yes hours, behind a group of lesser built rigs that were on a trail that they were not prepared for.

This is one of the purposes of our group, to teach new and less experienced people how and where to wheel as well as how to deal with getting in over their heads.

I belong to two different clubs myself. Carolina Trail Blazers We have some very mild built rigs and we have some near stock. We go to some places that a stocker shouldn't go, and we go to some places that some of us are way over built. In other words, a variety.
I also belong to Rock Corps 4X4 LLC, we leased a piece of property, and have developed it so as ALL rig types can have a great day of fun. This was intentional.
So with your group, I wish you the best, just ask that you don't hate us because some of us went big.
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We don't hate on the big tire folks, were just trying to avoid the attitude that inevitably comes with them.
XJfreakHO said:
+1, not nearly as big as chip, but not going into the 33 class either.
More often than not, I have sit in line, sometimes for hours, yes hours, behind a group of lesser built rigs that were on a trail that they were not prepared for.
Ditto... Normally the posers who stop every 10 feet and take new pictures.
Seems like a cool idea, be prepared for alot of Highschool age folks, new to the sport.
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We've been there too and want to take the opportunity to teach trail etiquette to those new to wheeling to make it better for us all.
Granny said:
I like what you are doing as far as being oriented toward the milder side of things, but limiting tire size may not be the way to do it. Personally, I like to trail ride far better than playing on the rocks, and I don't care much for the extreme stuff. I might like to ride with you sometime, but since I run 35s I wouldn't be welcome.
Yes you would, as would anyone.
As an example, I rode with the BDB over the 4th of July and had an absolute blast. These guys are about as extreme as it gets, but they also seem to enjoy some dirt under their tires too. They may have kept it mild just for me, but I don't really think so. I think if you would just limit the difficulty level of your planned rides you would still get your desired result.
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When you hear the name "Big Dixie Boggers" it sort of tells you what you might be in for if you ride with them. I'm not saying that is a bad thing. The same goes for 4X4Everyone, EVERYONE is welcome, so that should help to know what wheeling with us will be like. No one seems to ever have an issue about telling people to go bigger, we're here to let them know they don't have too.
Igrok said:
CAN YOU FOLKS NOT READ??? :shaking:
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trailhugger said:
I think it's great! :beer:
I didn't get the impression that it is about excluding anyone but letting newer folks get their feet wet. Even if there isn't 'attitude,' folks can be a little intimidated by big/tricked out rigs that are obviously more capable. You gotta learn how to wheel somewhere... and better to know how it all works before you start modifying your junk.
If there's a general guideline of max. tire size, it seems to be just so everyone knows not to expect but so much difficulty. Doesn't mean the guys sitting on 44s can't enjoy a little old-fashioned 'trail riding' too.
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Thank you Igrok and Trailhugger, That's exactly our point.

Our group is open to EVERYONE of every tire size with the understanding that our rides will be oriented to those of 33" size tires and less.
Now, I have a Wrangler on 37's 7"+1" of lift and a lot of other upgrades and I'm building a Samurai on 36's spring under on stock YJ springs, this yields me about the same ride height as a SOA on 31's but with better axle clearance. I had been lured into the "go big or go home" philosophy so I could be able to run with friends. I have spent a ton of money and now realize that I had more fun with my Wrangler when it was stock, or slightly modified, than I do now. I find wheeling my wife's ZJ on 33's is much more fun and challenging than driving my Wrangler. I haven't even wanted to take the Wrangler out because hers is so much more fun and challenging to wheel. We have seen people talked into selling perfectly good stockish rigs so they could get into something "better" and then finding it too expensive or beyond their ability to pull off and getting out of the sport all together.
 
I think the easiest way to fix all this is to drop the comments about the club being founded to counter the go big or go home attitude. Just state what type of trail riding, fellowship and events you intend to do and the stock and mild rigs will join right up. There's plenty of clubs out there that do the big stuff and those who do go big already know how to contact them.
 
Cool idea.

I had a bone stock Cherokee last summer. Went to Uwharrie once, with a group of guys from here and 4X4Grace (all built rigs). It wasn't a "go big or go home" kind of trip. They were patient with me and helped me along when necessary. But I struggled on some stuff they could do in 2WD... and I had to park and ride along when they did Daniel.

Having been in that position (not unwelcome, but obviously the smallest and least capable rig in the group) I think it would be cool to have a group of stock, or near-stock rigs to ride with.
 
cltdba said:
I think the easiest way to fix all this is to drop the comments about the club being founded to counter the go big or go home attitude. Just state what type of trail riding, fellowship and events you intend to do and the stock and mild rigs will join right up. There's plenty of clubs out there that do the big stuff and those who do go big already know how to contact them.
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Well said Chris, I guess the attitude part is what got to me.
I enjoy trail riding as much as I do the hard stuff. As a matter of fact, my first day at Harlan is usually a easy trip around the park with great scenery and photo opportunities. Many have heard me say, the bigger you build them, the further you have to go to have fun. Meaning, I did have a lot of fun in my Jeep when it was in stock form. I learned the hard way, from experience. Sure would have been nice to have someone to lead and guide me way back when. I think this club or group will definitely help a lot of folks out.

Something you may want to consider, we sometimes allow small groups the use of the flats. Get with me if interested.

BTW If I let all my air out, I am only about 29" tall :huggy:
 
Go big or go home....nah...my favorite rig to wheel was my XJ when it was locked and on 33's, went all over Tellico, loved it. Good idea for a club.
 
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