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fryedaddy

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OK I'm using the factory Compressor because I did have room for the york. I've bought all but the tubing, oil filter/seperator and pressure switch. I have a good idea about the oil seperator - I'm going to get one that has a valve that will shoot the oil back into the intake line once its full (my dad gave me the idea). My question is on the pressure switch. I'm trying to locate one but I'm having trouble finding one for DC. Do these switches run AC and DC or is it a special one? Where can I find it?
 
Go to any indust. supply and get a square d pressure switch. All it does is break the contact of your 12v wire going to the comp clutch
 
Pressure Switch

No difference between AC and DC in this application. You can use one side for now and when you wear that side out switch to the other.

Second the Square D brand. I borrowed one from work.
 
fryedaddy said:
OK I'm using the factory Compressor because I did have room for the york. I've bought all but the tubing, oil filter/seperator and pressure switch. I have a good idea about the oil seperator - I'm going to get one that has a valve that will shoot the oil back into the intake line once its full (my dad gave me the idea). My question is on the pressure switch. I'm trying to locate one but I'm having trouble finding one for DC. Do these switches run AC and DC or is it a special one? Where can I find it?

LMOA !!!! Sorry bout that, but it runs off of pressure not electricity. LOL !
The pressure opens and closes the relay which is what you concect 12vdc pos to and the other side to the comprssor clutch wire. When the pressure builds to the set point it opens the relay and shuts off the clutch on the comp. When the pressure drops, the relay closes, energizing the comp clutch. Be carefull as AC comps will run in the 300-400psi range. You only need about 100-120 psi of air.

JB
 
fryedaddy said:
I have a good idea about the oil seperator - I'm going to get one that has a valve that will shoot the oil back into the intake line once its full (my dad gave me the idea).

Don't over think it... From the guys I know with OBA, adding oil to the mister and draining the seperator is nearly an annual thing...
 
True it may be over thought but the oil filter/seperator doesn't cost any more and would just require me to plumb a line back into the oil tank or intake line -- sorry wasn't clear on it. Your probably right though it's someting I'll prob check everyday I use it.
 
John, I have never seen a Compressor with that kinda pressure! 300 to 400 psi would kill about anything you used it on. Most switches I found were factory set to come on at 90 psi and below and to shut off at 125 psi. They all seemed to be adjustable, but not to that extreem. The major difference in the ones I found, other than cost, was some have an extra air line plumbed in to release pressure on the compressor when it reaches max PSI, a good idea for longevity of your compressor. That way it never has to start under pressure. The others are much more simple, on at 90 and off at 125. I got mine from Napa, about $22 if I remember. I have mine wired inside to a switch where I can have it on or off. This can be helpful when going down hill.... having the purge/drain line open so as to not build pressure, you can flip it on, making the compressor run, lowering engine RPM's, slowing your decent. Depending on the compressor used, it robs between 5 and 10 HP.

Plumbing the already circulated oil back thru the system doesn't seem like such a good idea to me. there will be a certain amount of moisture in the oil. A pre-oiler set up sounds to me to be the best option. I use 30 w in mine, and at the cost I don't think it would be cost affective to plumb it to re-circulate, no more than it will use. The oil seperator will give you an idea of how much you are using, and as to how often and how much to add back in. I have read of guys using slick 50 in them. leting the Slick 50 circulate in and then out in a circle on the intial install, coating all the internals at start up. then draining it and running no oil at all. I have not tried this myself, but have read it from several sources. Hope this helps
 
Thanks Over haven't thought about the water being in the oil. Guess another good thought waisted. Rich is right about over thinking as well.
 
upnover said:
John, I have never seen a Compressor with that kinda pressure! 300 to 400 psi would kill about anything you used it on. Most switches I found were factory set to come on at 90 psi and below and to shut off at 125 psi

Not the switch silly, the compressor running freon used for air conditioning was designed to conpress freon to 300 - 400 psi. That is what the compressor is capable of. For OBA around 100 psi is plenty. I only cautioned him cause a buddy hooked it up wrong and blew an air line. He said it sounded like a bomb and scared the sh!t out of him when the airline burst from to much pressure. He called me and we got it hooked up correctly and it would now shut off around 120 psi

JB
 
I knew the compressor would produce high psi. I've already bought a blow off valve @ 200psi just in case. Air can be extremely dangerous especially if you don't know how high the pressures are.
 
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