Ramsey vs Henry

I ccw daily, and this really doesn't upset me. It's private property (as opposed to what I'd call semi-public, i.e. retail stores, offices open to the general public, etc), and governed by employee/employer contract. A company should be FREE to make it's own policies regarding it's employees. If an employee doesn't like the policy, it's a free market, and he can seek work elsewhere. You take a job, you sign the employment contract, you are agreeing to abide by whatever they put in it, or walk.

Now, if this was walmart booting a legally carrying, invited (by open premises) citizen/customer in a (semi) public area of the retail store, then yes, I would have a problem with it.
 
kaiser715 said:
I ccw daily, and this really doesn't upset me. It's private property (as opposed to what I'd call semi-public, i.e. retail stores, offices open to the general public, etc), and governed by employee/employer contract. A company should be FREE to make it's own policies regarding it's employees. If an employee doesn't like the policy, it's a free market, and he can seek work elsewhere. You take a job, you sign the employment contract, you are agreeing to abide by whatever they put in it, or walk.

Now, if this was walmart booting a legally carrying, invited (by open premises) citizen/customer in a (semi) public area of the retail store, then yes, I would have a problem with it.
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But I think that's the point. They have the right to refuse to allow firearms, and we have the right to refuse to buy their products. Thats the beauty of freedom, it goes both ways, and it's a risk you take as a business by taking a stand for or against something.
 
I agree with kaiser715. Is it "feasible" to want to/need to have your CCW in a winch plant? I don't know of ANY employers that would want or allow an employee to carry while on the job (except for those job requiring the employee to be outside or on the road). I don't think it is too much of Ramsey to ask it's employees not to carry on the clock.

Is it reasonable that "we" boycott Ramsey because they won't allow an employee to carry while on their clock? I don't think so.
 
Actually, my company all but requires employees to CCW. I do, every day, in accordance with corporate policy.




I am self-employed. :D :flipoff2:
 
The issue was weapons stored in the cars, parked on company property, not CCW while on the clock. They found weapons in some cars and fired the employee's on the spot.

So, your GF works at the winch plant, third shift. The parking lot is not patroled. She has to drive home in the middle of the night, unarmed. I see a good reason for her to be able to have a weapon in her car (not CCW while working!)

Ramsey doesn't care about your GF. That's the point.
 
Got that. Still their property, their employees, their rules. Employees agreed to the rules when hired. Free market.
 
How did a company "find" the weapons? every company I have worked for had that policy yet I still had mine locked up in the vehicle.
 
http://www.wxii12.com/news/22398711/detail.html

man saved because he carried on the job.

This is along the same line as the Zero Tolerance policy for bringing a gun on to school campus.

If the parent is a CCW holder, and drops a child off in the morning, they are in violation of policy. Are you supposed to leave the gun on the curb?
 
They are well within their rights to ban carry in the plant.
It is none of their cotton pickin' business what I have in my car. My car is my property.
Now, if they signed away their rights in an employment contract, that is the employees fault.
 
So I'm curious about an analogous debate.

Not long ago, the WFU Medical Center went to a complete No Smoking Campus policy. No smoking ANYWHERE on the property except in "designated areas". Of which there are liek 2 for the whole ocmplex.
This includes parking lots and *inside your own car*. E.g. you can't go outside, sit in you car w/ the windows up, and smoke.

how do you feel about that?
(BTW, similar CCW rule too)
 
RatLabGuy said:
So I'm curious about an analogous debate.
Not long ago, the WFU Medical Center went to a complete No Smoking Campus policy. No smoking ANYWHERE on the property except in "designated areas". Of which there are liek 2 for the whole ocmplex.
This includes parking lots and *inside your own car*. E.g. you can't go outside, sit in you car w/ the windows up, and smoke.
how do you feel about that?
(BTW, similar CCW rule too)
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Quintiles has a similar policy. I met some pretty cool people over that, because some of them walked around the corner to my company's smoking area. :lol:
The assholes from their went and sat in their cars in the middle of the road blocking our trucks from getting in and out and threw their butts on the ground.
That said, it did have the desired effect and forced a LOT of people to quit smoking.
I still disagree. But, I don't work there, so I don't have a horse in that race.
 
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