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I had thicker gloves but I don't like thick gloves. Need to look into some like driving gloves or something. I love having dexterity the mech gloves give. Even though they are not flame retardant, most of the time when I'm welding they are sufficient (mostly to prevent arc burn.. I'll wear heavy long sleeves in summer to avoid Arc burn) just didn't expect all the flying hot metal to come back at my hand. It was the body mount section that did it to me.