Tire mounting help

Ricky B

Ricky B

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Guys, I seriously can't get this friggin tire on the stupid rim. Its a 44" tire and I'm trying to mount it on a 15" rim (yes its a 15" rim tire) and I can't get the thing on. We had three people, two tractor tire spoons, and two crow bars and we cannot get this tire over the lip of the rim. Any tips tricks? I tried the soapy water deal, didn't help. Any thing else you guys can think of?
Thanks.
 
mbalbritton said:
don't they have places that will mount them for you...... crap.. what are they called... um..oh.. it's coming to me.... a FREAKIN TIRE SHOP
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i dont know of anyplace that will mount that big of a tire......well not in W-S anyway........merchants stop at 37"
 
why not find a place that sells implement or big rig tires, and start there.. start thinking not like a car, but like something bigger.. ;)

You DID have the rim held in place, right? right?
 
You know, for my motorcycle tire, we set the tire in the sun, and then we just stepped on the tire and jumped on it till it went on. Just a lil suggestion, Im sure it wont work for a monster tire, but you never know.
 
Did you get the first bead on, or are you still at that point?
Are you mounting it, starting at the "back" of the wheel?
Use straight dish soap, and 2 crow bars.
Get part of the tire over the back side of the rim and into the "deep" part of the rim.
Stand on the tire and work it with the crow bars, just you, the guy standing on the tire, you will have more leverage than anyone standing on the ground trying to help.
After the first bead is on, set the rim on a bucket with a lid (or something to get it off of the ground and let the tire flex down more). Hope that made sence..
That's how I did my 44 x 15's. No one in town would mount them, at least no one I called....
The first one was a real bitch, but the other 3 were a piece of cake.
Stick with it, you'll get it.
I actually thought the 44's were easier than my 33's were, because of all the sidewall that was there to flex. :beer:
 
Thanks for the info guys, yea, i cant even get the first lip over, and I basically did exactly what you said. The problem might be that these tires are old, (really old) tires, so thats maybe why they are so much more stiffer. Tryed the sun trick and the soapy water trick, and yea I went to the John Deere place where they sell big tractors and the guy there told me that he would be doing it the same way. Oh well, I guess i'll just have to try again later. Or just finnaly fork over and get one of the 4wd shops to do it. I know Hicks and Galloways can do it.
 
I took some 40's to a local smalltown tire dude (Harry Martin in Willow Spring) to have broken down. We used 2 spoons and a large mallett. We broke the sidewall on one of them trying to get it off. Be careful with those sidewalls! These were wore out tires / old as well.
 
6BangBronk said:
We broke the sidewall on one of them trying to get it off. Be careful with those sidewalls! These were wore out tires / old as well.
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Damn.. my SX's aren't that new either, and I spent 2 hours trying to break the inner bead off them.. That roofing compound will damn sure hold an inner bead!

But, in doing so, I drove the front tire of my dually on the sidewall, up to the bead at least 10 times, and used the hi-lift after that at least 20 times, to the point where the front tires of the tow rig were almost off the ground... a buncha scuffs, but no "damage" to the sidewall..

Or, do you mean you ripped a bead while mounting them? I'd believe it.. seen a bunch of those..

But really, why the hell don't you have beadlocks for a "trail rig"??
 
mbalbritton said:
I'm thinking SoidIdeal off 52 in Winston.. they do all kinds of Agri and Heavy Equip. tires.
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And they still use spoons, BFH, & dish soap to mount them... :flipoff2:

The main issue is most tire machines don't have the clearance for anything larger than 36"/37" between the spindle and the arm than holds the tool...

Something I just thought of... there are differences in the bead area of most rims... remember when we tried to mount your spare? I believe we tried puting the inner bead on first and it *would not* go... flipped the rim to insert the outer bead of the rim first and it was gravy...
 
our old Mac tire machine at work will do up to a 44. i doubt my boss would be happy if i did it though, he gave me nasty looks when i did my 36's back around christmas
 
I have one of these http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=34542
It is bolted to a concrete slab, I have done up to a 40" Tire on it with no problem, It is definetly worth the $ spent, it gets used quite often. Not the best for breaking beads on bigger tires, (use the highlift and the bumper on my truck for that) but for mounting and dismounting it works awesome.
 
Caver Dave said:
And they still use spoons, BFH, & dish soap to mount them... :flipoff2:

The main issue is most tire machines don't have the clearance for anything larger than 36"/37" between the spindle and the arm than holds the tool...

Something I just thought of... there are differences in the bead area of most rims... remember when we tried to mount your spare? I believe we tried puting the inner bead on first and it *would not* go... flipped the rim to insert the outer bead of the rim first and it was gravy...
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and my suggestion still stands.... he said he couldn't get it and needed help... take it somewhere and let someone who does that kinda work do it. :flipoff2:
 
I meant - Ripped a sidewall (we broke all the sidewalls while removing the tires from the rims - duh) :rolleyes:
about a half inch - just past where rim seals. Was best tire too. 40x14.5x15" Groundhawgs. Free to good home if anyone wants them. Two of them have the tread of an onion. The other has slight tread. But they held air before they were broke down.
 
mbalbritton said:
and my suggestion still stands.... he said he couldn't get it and needed help... take it somewhere and let someone who does that kinda work do it. :flipoff2:
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I'd be willing to bet there a few dozen places between him & W-S (what, 200 miles) that *will* do it (see his previous post), but said they'd have to do it by hand also... :flipoff2:
 
Caver Dave said:
I'd be willing to bet there a few dozen places between him & W-S (what, 200 miles) that *will* do it (see his previous post), but said they'd have to do it by hand also... :flipoff2:
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pay atttention DA.....

don't they have places that will mount them for you...... crap.. what are they called... um..oh.. it's coming to me.... a FREAKIN TIRE SHOP
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be it if they have a machine or they have to do it by hand..... they'll get the tire on the rim just the same.... and that is helping him get the tire on the rim :flipoff2:
 
I'm probably gonna give it another go tommorow, like i said i got three of em on its just this damn last tire doesnt want to go on. If I cant get it on tommorow i will most likly end up spending the $ for someone to do it, it just makes me mad because I'm paying them to do what I have the capability to do :mad: .
 
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