Tow rig tire ????

F350 SRW or dually? I'm running the General Grabber Red Letter 35x12.50R17 on my 05 CUMMINS. So far so good, I can barely hear it in the cab, I'm told you can hear me coming but I can't tell in the cab. Ride smooth even at hwy speeds. I tow heavy (up to 30k gross) often and they haven't felt squirly once. The compound is much harder than most other aggresive E-load tires I've seen which helps them last longer but doesn't help in the rain. They don't have any sipes either so I've locked them up a couple times in the rain when I'm empty. I run dirt roads quite a bit and they've really impressed me with the traction and the truck doesn't drift near as much as the BFG AT KO's I had. I haven't had this truck buried in the mud but I have got in some slimy situations and pulled out fine. The last equipment auction I went to was nearly rained out and I was parked in a clay field with my 30' gooseneck and a bobcat on it (total trailer weight ~ 10,200) I had my front driveshaft out (u-joint) and managed to get up the ditch bank and on the highway in 2wd. I have approximately 12k miles on them and probably 75% tread left so I'm hoping for 45k out of them. They balanced well and I rotate them every 10k so if they do make it to 45k I'll probably buy again. I did consider the procompy extreme at's since they have a 50k warranty but I wanted a stiffer side wall. There's a good thread over on cummins forum about these red letters here:

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/t...al-grabber-off-road-performance-report-5.html

hope that helps.

Dave
 
there you go then... the red letters would be a nice tire for you. I also looked at the Nitto trail grapplers and yokohoma muds but all the info on cummins forum lead me to beleive the softer compound on the nitto and yoko would wear much quicker on heavy diesel trucks. I considered the yoko geolander briefly because they're cheap, but they're not aggressive enough for me. That and I'm American so I like to buy American and General Grabber is an American company. And yes I know that yokos and nittos have plants in the state but their home base isnt on American soil. I have nothing against other countries either, I'm just a proud American and like to support US.
 
Clubbs said:
there you go then... the red letters would be a nice tire for you. I also looked at the Nitto trail grapplers and yokohoma muds but all the info on cummins forum lead me to beleive the softer compound on the nitto and yoko would wear much quicker on heavy diesel trucks. I considered the yoko geolander briefly because they're cheap, but they're not aggressive enough for me. That and I'm American so I like to buy American and General Grabber is an American company. And yes I know that yokos and nittos have plants in the state but their home base isnt on American soil. I have nothing against other countries either, I'm just a proud American and like to support US.
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Have you ever ran the toyo mt? I found a good deal on a set used.
 
Based on the front tire wear on my Nitto Trail Grapplers, I should get 45-50k out of them, easy. That's on an 03 CTD.

However, based on the *rear* tire wear, I'll be lucky to get 35k out of them. That's not Nitto's fault, though. That's 3500# of pin weight taking a LOT of mileage off the tires. I can't get a tire from anybody else heavy enough to do the job w/o going to Gs.

I think that anybody that spends most of their miles towing less than 10k would get over 50k miles out of them, diesel or otherwise.
 
Don't run a toyo mt on a diesel if your pulling any kind of weight had a friend that did and they didn't last long
 
never run the toyo's but I hear good things about them and seems to be alot of them out on the road. The trail graps are real popular too and look great. there's some monster threads on them on the cummins forum too and I almost went that route. When doing my research before I bought tires it seemed like the toyo muds lasted a little longer than the nitto muds which is not surprising bases on the extreme tread on the nittos. that said the nitto all terrains (also very popular and good looking) seem to last 60k ish based on user reports. So I would think that the trail graps being similar to the toyo muds should last about the same as the toyo's ~50k. I was hoping that the harder compound on my red letters would help them last long than either of the toyos or the nittos but I think that I'm at about 50k too based on my current tread wear. So all in all it seems that you should expect 50k out of a set of mildly aggresive E load tires on a diesel truck doing some occasional to moderate towing duty regardless of tire brand. But its going to require you to rotate every 10k miles or so, and as mentioned heavy pin weight takes a toll. And really from what I see you only have three choices: nitto trail graps, toyo muds, or the red letters. Only the toyo has been around long enough to have any real data. BFG makes a good tire but I can't seem to run them on heavy trucks towing goosenecks. Goodyear has some new stuff but I don't remeber any of it really impressing me. If you just want a nice ride, no noise, long life, don't care what it looks like, go Michelin.

Dave
 
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