Toyota/sami comp?

superpile

superpile

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Has anyone tried to get a low buck grass roots rockcrawl comp sorta thing organized in the southeast?
I dig the big stuff but would love to get into some low buck yota and sami comps for fun no cash prizes. Maybe have a entry level class w/ up to 35", lockers, leaf springs, dual boxes, factory hood line, cab, all yota or sami componets. Then have like a modified class w/ up to 38's, cutting brakes, link suspensions, yota and d44 axles only still have a factory hood and cab, ya know no full out buggys romping on everybody just real cheap fun with the driver and spotter being the deciding factory.
Sound like fun to anyone else. I'd love to get something like this going. Have meets in Spartenburg sc and Harlan ky and ? .
Just curious if anybody(s) else thought something along these lines would be fun.
later.
 
I don't know, I wouldn't want to compete against Larry's yota, not with him behind the wheel anyways.
 
superpile said:
Has anyone tried to get a low buck grass roots rockcrawl comp sorta thing organized in the southeast?
I dig the big stuff but would love to get into some low buck yota and sami comps for fun no cash prizes. Maybe have a entry level class w/ up to 35", lockers, leaf springs, dual boxes, factory hood line, cab, all yota or sami componets. Then have like a modified class w/ up to 38's, cutting brakes, link suspensions, yota and d44 axles only still have a factory hood and cab, ya know no full out buggys romping on everybody just real cheap fun with the driver and spotter being the deciding factory.
Sound like fun to anyone else. I'd love to get something like this going. Have meets in Spartenburg sc and Harlan ky and ? .
Just curious if anybody(s) else thought something along these lines would be fun.
later.
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This would be a great idea, i would love to compete in something once the toy is finished. Just need a class where any axles (i have a 44 and a 60) and any suspension goes, but still have stock cab and stuff like that.
 
you could just do "street legal" and unlimited. street legal meaning proof of current reg, etc. maybe seperate the legal class into 35" and smaller and 36"+ subdivisions. I wouldn't try to go by what axles, engines, etc are in it because it would end up a big pain in the ass and you would end up excluding people, or putting them into mismatched competition.
 
YJJPWrangler87 said:
cuz jeeps would win :)
Zack
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Because 9 out of 10 people wheel Jeeps.

Plus nobody wants to sit there and watch you guys kerplod Dana 30s all day.:flipoff2:
 
I own a jeep built out the ... pooper. I figured most jeeps aren't as cost effective as sami's and yota's. I have wheeled my 85 yota (before I buggy'd it) places that built jeeps can't go with out beating them badly. I didn't include d60 axles cause I know from my jeep building a D60 gets expensive fast, very fast. anyways I like the idea of a street legal class and mod class but think we should keep it to non full width 44 and yota/sami axles to keep the bashers with huge tires and axles out, no reason someone who can't drive should win just cause they are willing to straight up destroy their rig. But I guess we could lay out the course to compensate for big tires and axle throttle jockys couldn't we?
I was just thinking low buck. Big tires, big axles, aren't cheap. yota's and sami's are cheap to buy and insanely cheaper to build parts wise.
Post up here some rules you'd all suggest for a class like these.
 
If its organized the problem will always be rules and fairness... The other thing is location.. again if its organized someone needs to 'do the work' make it all formal and stuff... (and safe)

Ive tossed around tons of ideas in my head for a few years and for the most part they don't work out due to various reasons or they exceed the 'low budget' aspect..

One that sticks is... the idea of a small chassis based 1 seater buggy, aka "budget buggy" For anything to take off you need to get away from any one brand vehicle.. Anyone who's built a rig and a buggy would agree starting with sticks is easier in the log run for commonality, repairs, etc.. Agree to standard design/template with the DIY person in mind.. [ I don't like the comp-toy must buy from vendor XYZ when many are capable of doing the work, but i understand the reasons behind it.. ] A simple buggy design, easy to build, fix, (or even buy) hell you could build a simple design with very few bends at all.. Then pick a few readily avaliable drive trains and then alter rules as needed to level set.(total rig weight +/- for various combos) I'd say the jeep 2.5L/ax5/np231 combo.. along with a Toy 4cyl/engine combo or others.. If your really on the keep it cheep to compete path restrict 1 t-case and NO 4:1s and limit axles to 4.10s this puts alot (all) the focus back on the driver and i think removes many of the vehicle dependancys... Id say any 33" labled radial.. and axles could be what ever you wanted as the tire size would reduce need for big stuff.. or penilize with weight.. etc.. Small tiresize would help with part longevity and allow mostly stock rigs to compete. The idea with the entry level isnt skirt the rules but to be similer to your competetors to compete driver vs driver more so than rig vs rig... Problem is you'd need clearly spelled out rules/regs. and 8-10 people who wanted to get this going for it to stick and become a 'standard' or sorts.. Once that took off it'd be just like an imca or other 'standard' based car where you could show up anywhere run a course and go home... Emphasis would be on course time vs breakage to allow for faster/more rigs to compete... could be a self timed event at ANY park spot etc.. Put sign/marker indicating start/stop points and how to calculate your 'score' etc..

but... If you read all that and think that sucks, to slow, to this or to that.. you'd probalbly need to move to a higher comp. class etc..
 
Count me in, even though my friends would love to see me build a yota. Require stock axles, max 33" tire. I think the new tube kit for jeeps by Shaffer's, similar to Formula Toy, is an awesome idea for something along these lines. I'd love to build a budget yj, 4 cyl, 5 spd, 30, 44(if allowed), 4-1 231, and 33" iroks w/ Shaffer's tubing to compete with. This is a cool idea, since alot of people, myself included, have built up their current rig and don't want to thrash it in comps. I know I've been looking for a way to start competing, everyone likes alittle competition.

The east coast needs something like F-toy.

Let me know how serious you are, I can talk to Tom at Carolina Driveline about Spartanburg.
 
superpile said:
Has anyone tried to get a low buck grass roots rockcrawl comp sorta thing organized in the southeast?
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Like F-Toy?

No F-Toy events on this side of the US, but you could certainly work within their structure to get some in the East. Keep the rules and everything consistent.
 
I think the better point of something like this is to allow people with their prebuilt low budget trail rigs to compete against each other instead of just going crawling and trail riding. Stick with simple rules. Street legal and trailer queen. Split both classes up by tire size and lockers. Adjust the line each one must follow so that it is difficult for the level. You would have to remember that the basic rules apply. You need a cage, seat belts, pass tech. This would probably work best by being hosted by different clubs in the area. I would love to go try to compete, but I can't afford a summer of trailering from one event to the other while spending all my off time fixing it for next weekend.
 
sounds good but I'm stock with a lift and tires so as long as the class was right
 
im game for the comp. Im locked and im going be on 35's soon. I will beat it until it breaks or I make it.:driver:
 
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just get one of em running erik!:flipoff2:
 
Damn Dave, gay and you didn't even spell my name right? That hurts. I like the idea. And just so you know mine now goes vroom tap tap tap ... anyways. I like these ideas. I like the weight classes and tire classes but say 35 and smaller, I want to keep the lower class for full body rigs but say we can have a tube class on 35's or smaller that is fairly regulated on chassis but open on drivelines. Travis care to talk to your buddy about Spartenburg. Come on Dave give us some input you are the idea king.
 
I see alot of people on this post who "want to have a comp" but have not been to DPG. It's right here in the middle of NC. If you want to have a compition, bring youself down, and bring some cones. There does not have to be a bunch of rules, run what you brung for bragging rights. Seems like the normal talk on here about "what I'd do if I had this" and "what I want when I get done building" Theres a ride in two weeks, put up or shut up:D
 
I just looked at the shaffer chassis. Travis that thing is the great, I say we go with a street legal class up to 35 (tag etc no rear steer, factory bodies) and then a tube class built off yota, sami, or jeep frames up to 38's (any mix of parts) and then a free for all class open to whoever wants in.
I would be open to a trail run in DPG on a non open general open day, but not till after memorial day. A bunch of us are going up there for Harlan's southern shine crawl.
Oh I have been to DPG twice by the way and I'm more than willing to Put Up.
 
superpile said:
I just looked at the shaffer chassis. Travis that thing is the great, I say we go with a street legal class up to 35 (tag etc no rear steer, factory bodies) and then a tube class built off yota, sami, or jeep frames up to 38's (any mix of parts) and then a free for all class open to whoever wants in.
I would be open to a trail run in DPG on a non open general open day, but not till after memorial day. A bunch of us are going up there for Harlan's southern shine crawl.
Oh I have been to DPG twice by the way and I'm more than willing to Put Up.
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1 week, bring it:beer:
 
I think that the catagories Should be simple
Stock= only mods 4" lift , tires and lockers must be street legal and registered with plates,but no sponsered rigs

Modified = Any lift any tires and any supension,but no sponsered rigs
Open = anything goes but no sponsered rigs
Unlimited = Sponsered rigs
 
Ridgerunner said:
I think that the catagories Should be simple
Stock= only mods 4" lift , tires and lockers must be street legal and registered with plates,but no sponsered rigs
Modified = Any lift any tires and any supension,but no sponsered rigs
Open = anything goes but no sponsered rigs
Unlimited = Sponsered rigs
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Whay about those of us with street legal rigs who dont bother to register them? How about just a inspection for the class instead? Oh, and open fronts?
 
rockmafia said:
1 week, bring it:beer:
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Can't in a week, won't be done. but I'll try, :beer: what brand? I'll bring some and we can share a cold one and remember little tires, no tube work, leaf springs and real firewalls.

I think just an inspection for each class would be better, W.E. rock remomends even in stock mod class no windshield or side glass. I think two class stock mod and full mod. have the tires and amount of custom suspension and body work set the class apart, Throw in a third class for buggys maybe.
 
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