Welder radio noise

Chuckman

Chuckman

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Just tried my new TIG/Plasma unit and it works fine, just freaks out the kitchen stove. This unit it 220V and the stove is gas (110V), but it tries to turn on the oven. WTF! Looks like the wife is not amused. Am I gonna have to sell my new toy?!!! Is this radio noise? I tried it on AC and DC and it does it. Nothing in the house is working abnormal but the welder. Cant contact anybody since its Sun night, anybody heard of this and have a remedy? This blows.:confused:
 
Not sure what you mean, it tries to turn on the oven...
Also are you sure your oven is 110???
None of my builders are using NG neighborhoods right now, but in the past all ovens I have doen are 220.

All that said, not sure, but if you dont get it fgured and need to call for back ups shoot me a PM....
 
A gas stove is 110v, cause it doesn't use electricity to gererate the heat. Where is the welder in relation to the stove? (Other side of the wall?) Also what it the welder connected electrically? (Mine is hard wired in the breaker box to the drier circuit.) Just can't run them both at the same time.
 
all gas stoves are 100v.....



i'd try relocating your double pole breaker farther away from the kitchen breaker.... and make sure it is firmly installed in the panel box.... try moving the wires from the breaker that feed your new outlet to exit your panel box closer tot he breaker itself and keep it as far away from the other wires as possible.

what brand unit is it?
 
I have the welder about 30 feet from the stove. I plug it in the dryer recepticle when needed. I watched the stove and it tries to turn on to 350 -then 500, then back to 350 a couple times then says its lost ground. I am sure that its just grounded through the plug. The stove manual states that it may need another ground if req'd. The welder has a separate safety ground inside the case, maybe I need to try and hook that up. So is this feeder noise through the house wiring, or through radio waves etc. We are moving soon and would like to know the odds of this happening over there at the new house. These CB's are 5 units away from each other on same side of the panel.
 
It's the RF screwing with all of your electronic devices. Basically ground everything in your shop as well as the welder itself... Maybe building a faraday cage of some sort around the welder would work..?


From lincoln.
MACHINE GROUNDING AND HIGH FREQUENCY
INTERFERENCE PROTECTION
The welder must be grounded. See your local and national electrical
codes for proper grounding methods.
The high frequency generator, being similar to a radio transmitter, can
be blamed for radio, TV and electronic equipment interference problems.
These problems may be the result of radiated interference. Proper
grounding methods can reduce or eliminate radiated interference.
Radiated interference can develop in the following four ways:
1. Direct interference radiated from the welder.
2. Direct interference radiated from the welding leads.
3. Direct interference radiated from feedback into the power lines.
4. Interference from re-radiation of "pickup" by ungrounded metallic
objects.
Keeping these contributing factors in mind, installing equipment per
the
following instructions should minimize problems.
1. Keep the welder power supply lines as short as possible and enclose
as much of them as possible in rigid metallic conduit or equivalent
shielding for a distance of 50 feet (15.2m). There should be good
electrical contact between this conduit and the welder case ground.
Both
ends of the conduit should be connected to a driven ground and the
entire length should be continuous.
2. Keep the work and electrode leads as short as possible and as close
together as possible.
Lengths should not exceed 25 ft (7.6m). Tape the leads together when
practical.
3. Be sure the torch and work cable rubber coverings are free of cuts
and cracks that allow high frequency leakage.
4. Keep the torch in good repair and all connections tight to reduce
high frequency leakage.
5. The work piece must be connected to an earth ground close to the
work
clamp, using one of the following methods:SQUARE WAVE TIG 175
A-4
a) A metal underground water pipe in direct contact with the earth for
ten feet or more.
b) A 3/4" (19mm) galvanized pipe or a 5/8" (16mm) solid galvanized
iron,
steel or copper rod driven at least eight feet into the ground.
The ground should be securely made and the grounding cable should be as
short as possible using cable of the same size as the work cable, or
larger.
Grounding to the building frame electrical conduit or a long pipe
system
can result in re-radiation, effectively making these members radiating
antennas.
6. Keep cover and all screws securely in place.
7. Electrical conductors within 50 ft (15.2m) of the welder should be
enclosed in grounded rigid metallic conduit or equivalent shielding,
wherever possible.
Flexible metallic conduit is generally not suitable.
8. When the welder is enclosed in a metal building, the metal building
should be connected to several good earth driven electrical grounds (as
in 5 (b)
above) around the periphery of the building.
Failure to observe these recommended installation procedures can cause
radio or TV and electronic equipment interference problems and result
in
unsatisfactory welding performance resulting from lost high frequency
power."
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