what would you do ?

comppwizz

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O.K. I bought a toyota truck form some one on this board to start with when we were talking on the phone about me driving 4 hrs to get this truck I was told a lot of extra parts would come with it when I get there the only thing is what was posted no biggie a little disaponted but so be it.

I bought this for Parts I'm doing a total toy swap into a tracker.

Now this truck had a REBUILT Engine in it look preaty good on the outside.

get the motor and trany swaped to the tracker fire it up and something is not right.

pull the valve cover and the goober that built this used the wrong bolts for the cam caps and broke the rocker cage.
that was bad enough.

ok new head gasket and a rocker cage ?

Pull the head and notice there is a large gap between the pistons and cylinders I can stick a .040 feeler gauge in there

pull the motor pop the oil pan and every rod is loose. the bolts are tight but not the rods grab the crank and I can mover it up and down.

now the ? of the day WHO SHOULD PAY FOR THIS JUNK MOTOR ? Me or the guy I bought it from ?
 
Bought as is where is? If so sorry about your luck, sucks I know but that's the way it is...
 
You got it into the Tracker before you fired it up and found out things were wrong? Did you even fire the truck up and/or drive it when you went to look at it? Because if all of that stuff was wrong and you didn't notice it or check things out when you picked the vehicle up then you deserve what you got dude. All of that motor mess doesn't miraculously show up.
 
no it did not start it when i picked it up. the clutch was not connected and there where a few other issues I was told this before I got there. I looked it over was satisfied that what I was told was what i was getting. you could see the motor had just been put back togather and I was told it would run with out a problem once a few minor problems where worked out.

I try to trust people at there word.
 
Feel Free to post who this is so others can't be bs'd, buyer beware is the fact, you should have looked over the engine, but you didn't and it comes down to a persons word. Gets complicated.
 
I have trusted people on here and will continue. That said being said if there was a problem like that I would expect the seller to make it right. I have sold somebody an item and it was not what I thought it was so I paid his money back and picked the item up. You can only hope that others on here do the same...but it's an honor system around here and some people give a :poop: about that.
 
if he stated the motor was rebuilt then he is clearly leading you to believe that it is in reasonably good condition,but the way you describe it ,it sounds like it was taken apart and found that it was trash and slapped back together to try to sell.if thats the case he should make it right.although i would not expect that to happen. then again we've only heard one side of the story.
 
stunnap said:
i would ask for my money back....or burn the guy's trailer down.
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If you choose option B I suggest you do not post it here or anywhere else, don't use cell phones to talk (patriot act)
 
I've remained quiet on these topics in the past...

My .02

There are certain few people who seem to do this shit to everyone. Be it slightly overstate the item or its condition to flat out lying about something.

Yes its buyer beware/ as it what ever you like.

You all seem to know who these people are. Yet everyone is afraid to stir the pot. Do you guys think its funny when its someone you don't know gets screwed? If its someone you know you guys all get on here and give a bad seller a public ass raping. So which is it ? It only OK if its someone you don't know ?

I fully acknowledge there needs to be some base knowledge on the part of the buyer but I also think people buy from this site becasue they feel slightly safer than dealing with some clown off craigslist or ebay...

So I'll ask this: Are we (nc4x4) really better than craigslist or ebay ? How do you guys want to handle these questionable sellers ?

In talking with many people over the years its always small $10-20 items where any one person isnt gonna slam someone they don't really know for an item that small.... But what if you knew that person did that to everyone they dealt with?
 
Rebuilt should come w/ paperwork, machine shop reciept, ect. If it doesnt, then assume you are buying a POS.

Was the paper trail provided or did you just trust it was ok? If you trusted then your bad. But I sure as hell would make sure everyone knew. Hell I would put it in my sig but I enjoy being an ass at times.
 
I would contact him, and see what he says and offers to do. H may have bought it and was told what he told you. in any case, a good seller will make it good. If he chooses not to, then make it public. If he is THAT kinda seller, then he don't belong in our community.
 
Franklin said:
But I sure as hell would make sure everyone knew. Hell I would put it in my sig
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^^I think this is the best advice I've heard yet. Get shit from someone on here, list the shitter in your sig and I bet the shitters won't be able to shit many more people on here.
 
It's very clear that you bought a rebuilt motor and got one that needs to be rebuilt. The seller owes you one of the following.

1. a full refund if you return everything like it was when you got it.
2. a partial refund if you want to keep it
3. The cost of a rebuild if you want to rebuild it.
 
yager said:
I've remained quiet on these topics in the past...

My .02

There are certain few people who seem to do this shit to everyone. Be it slightly overstate the item or its condition to flat out lying about something.

Yes its buyer beware/ as it what ever you like.

You all seem to know who these people are. Yet everyone is afraid to stir the pot. Do you guys think its funny when its someone you don't know gets screwed? If its someone you know you guys all get on here and give a bad seller a public ass raping. So which is it ? It only OK if its someone you don't know ?

I fully acknowledge there needs to be some base knowledge on the part of the buyer but I also think people buy from this site becasue they feel slightly safer than dealing with some clown off craigslist or ebay...

So I'll ask this: Are we (nc4x4) really better than craigslist or ebay ? How do you guys want to handle these questionable sellers ?

In talking with many people over the years its always small $10-20 items where any one person isnt gonna slam someone they don't really know for an item that small.... But what if you knew that person did that to everyone they dealt with?
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Sounds like we need a bad sellers forum. I have no ideal of anyone on here that is a bad seller.
 
Have you even talked to this guy to try and work something out...or is this site the first place you came to bitch? Either way, I say lesson learned for the future so you don't get yourself in a predicament like this again. However, I know the majority of folks here are stand up guys that would at least attempt to make this right. In the end, you were mislead, but can only blame yourself. You need to look out for #1 to cover your own ass regardless of how trusting you want to be of people. If you were intentionally mislead, good luck getting anything back, if not, you may stand a chance.

That being said, the seller doesn't have to do anything, but I believe it would be the right thing to do.
 
Franklin said:
Rebuilt should come w/ paperwork, machine shop reciept, ect. If it doesnt, then assume you are buying a POS.
Was the paper trail provided or did you just trust it was ok? If you trusted then your bad. But I sure as hell would make sure everyone knew. Hell I would put it in my sig but I enjoy being an ass at times.
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X2, if no receipts of work, then price drops to assumed junk level.

Post this fuckers screen name. We all need to know who this liar is so we can avoid him.
 
yes I have talked to the seller sent him pictures of what I have found he knows this motor was not rebuilt correctly I have to believe he did not know up front that there was this kind of problem with it. I cant prove that anyway, that said he has not offered to refund anything or help make this motor right as of now. I will talk to him one more time and see what he says when I have a price on fixing this motor and be assured if he leaves me hanging after what I payed him for this his name will become public.
 
It depends partly on how the item was represented. There's "rebuilt" and there's "the previous owner told me it was rebuilt". Two very different statements.

I've sold things before which the previous owner told me had been rebuilt although I had no paperwork to prove it. In those cases I always tell the buyer that it was "rebuilt according to the previous owner". I go so far as to tell them that I have no proof and that all I can guarantee is my own experience (which has always been that it ran great for me, it runs great right now to the best of my knowledge, and after you hand me the money I'm done with it.) I think that's pretty fair although I will be more diligent about asking for paperwork in the future just to protect my own ass.

As a buyer I would be weary of "the previous owner told me it was rebuilt" and it might prompt me to be a little more thorough in checking it out.
 
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