Which 4x4 to buy?

landroner

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Hello all..
Hi. I'm a Ron Thorey. I don't have much of experience in 4x4. Can anyone suggest me which is the best 4x4 vehicle- Jeep or Toyota. I would greatly appreciate your help.
 
That is an opinion based question. If jeep and toyota are the only choices you are offering us then a little more information of what you want to do with the vehicle would be great. Will it be a daily driver? Trail only? Combo of both? How many do you plan on seating in the vehicle? You wanting old or new? V-8 versus V-6 or 4 banger? Are you looking to have payments or buy outright with cash? How much you looking to spend? Both Jeep and Toyota have a great following. parts and knowledge are widely available for both. I think it comes down to what your needs/wants are with the vehicle.
 
chevrolet:fuck-you:
 
If you are just looking to get into the 4x4 world and do a little trail running I would suggest a XJ Cherokee. IMO performance per dollar you just can't beat them. You can find a decent one for around $1200 and with minimal mods they are quite capable. The only downside to them is that the axles are a little on the weak side for serious wheeling but if you stay around 31-33" and wheel it smart you will be ok. They have alot of aftermarket support and parts for them are fairly cheap and most the time you can find used parts from others who are upgrading their rigs. They also have a good wheelbase for rocks and trails. A straight axle Toy is also a good rig to start with if youre looking for a truck. The only downside to them is the only year that has a straight axle and is fuel injected is the '85. As far as XJ's any one in the '87 to present year range is good and they all have fuel injection. I personally would avoid the 2.5l 4cyl and stick with a 4.0l 6cyl.
 
In Australia?
Not sure Id have any input, the foreign models often vary greatly from their stateside nameplates.

BTW "I'm a Ron Thorey" so, your A Ron Thorey, how many of you are there?
 
SkyHiK5 said:
In Australia?
Not sure Id have any input, the foreign models often vary greatly from their stateside nameplates.
BTW "I'm a Ron Thorey" so, your A Ron Thorey, how many of you are there?
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Missed the Aussie part of that. Good luck I have no idea what is over there no matter what info you give me LOL.
 
marvilusone said:
A straight axle Toy is also a good rig to start with if youre looking for a truck. The only downside to them is the only year that has a straight axle and is fuel injected is the '85. QUOTE]

Thats true in the states but this guy is in Australia. The Toyota trucks there are still straight axle throughout the early 90's maybe even later than that. Some even came with lockers front and rear and a snorkle from the factory. I would go with a Toyota Truck. And you can run bigger tires than 33's. And plus a lot of the Aussie trucks are diesels.
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marvilusone said:
If you are just looking to get into the 4x4 world and do a little trail running I would suggest a XJ Cherokee. IMO performance per dollar you just can't beat them. You can find a decent one for around $1200 and with minimal mods they are quite capable. The only downside to them is that the axles are a little on the weak side for serious wheeling but if you stay around 31-33" and wheel it smart you will be ok. They have alot of aftermarket support and parts for them are fairly cheap and most the time you can find used parts from others who are upgrading their rigs. They also have a good wheelbase for rocks and trails. A straight axle Toy is also a good rig to start with if youre looking for a truck. The only downside to them is the only year that has a straight axle and is fuel injected is the '85. As far as XJ's any one in the '87 to present year range is good and they all have fuel injection. I personally would avoid the 2.5l 4cyl and stick with a 4.0l 6cyl.
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Thats true in the states but this guy is in Australia. The Toyota trucks there are still straight axle throughout the early 90's maybe even later than that. Some even came with lockers front and rear and a snorkle from the factory. I would go with a Toyota Truck. And you can run bigger tires than 33's. And plus a lot of the Aussie trucks are diesels.
 
I missed the Aussie part of it when I wrote all that. I just ASSumed he was in the states.
 
You can't beat a Toyota. The after market parts are fairly cheap. You can buy a doubler that is clocked with a 4.7 gear set in the rear case for $1300. Stock birfields (front axle shafts) will handle a 38 inch tire. If you break a birf..... it's easy and fast to change. Longfields are aftermarket and they are only $6-700. Life time warrenty too. You can't beat that. You just can't beat a Toyota. Mine is still carburated and I usually don't have trouble. I have never been stopped on SEVERE inclines by my carb. You can find older Toyota's in the states for $500-1000 all day long. Just look for rusty frames before you buy. Surface rust is ok, but check for soft frames.
 
Thanks guys..I found toyota is a fine machine and can do a lot off road but someone told me that toyota are not easy to modify for rock crawling because of their front suspension which limits the lift and tire size...Thanks so much again for the advice.
 
landroner said:
someone told me that toyota are not easy to modify for rock crawling because of their front suspension which limits the lift and tire size...Thanks so much again for the advice.
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This is only the case with independent front suspension systems. Get a toyota with a straight axle in the front and you will be set.

Australia? How do you happen to be posting on a NC, USA site?
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I wondered that myself...
 
Go for the Toyota, get a solid axle one and you can lift it and make it really flex well with Chevy rear springs and putting the rear toyota springs up front.
 
IFS........... Year model 94 and below can be SAS'd with a Toyota Solid axle out of an older model fairly easily and cheap.
 
CoonDogger said:
IFS........... Year model 94 and below can be SAS'd with a Toyota Solid axle out of an older model fairly easily and cheap.
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Thanks CoonDogger, rattlecanpaint, FrontPorchFab, and friends for all the suggestions you have given me...They are really valuable and would help me in buying a 4x4....as I was looking for the 4x4 which would give me a good response... :driver:
 
i would have bought the cheapest thing I could....wheel the crap out of it ...Then buy you a toy to build and care for...:p
 
Thanks friends for the very thoughtful post. I really appreciate the fact that you guys and others care enough to take the time to write suggestion. Although I can't say that I agree with every point, many are right on.
As I was asking for information's on many forums about 4x4 vehicles and now I think that it is good to go for a Jeep Cherokee old one which I could transform later with lifts, big tires, etc....Any advice?
Thanks again for your thoughtful response and wish 2008 will be a GREAT year for you and your dear ones.
 
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