Which winch…?

[rockcity]

Finally getting back to reinstalling a winch on the JLUR.

I have 2 options. I already own both.

1. Reassemble a fixed 9.5ti and reinstall? Plus have to purchase a mew remote?

2. Install a cheapo NIB Badlands 12k?


Again, I already own both but would have to buy a new remote for the Warn as my old one went with my buggy when I sold it. The remote alone is half the cost of the Badlands winch.

I have steel cable on the badlands and synthetic on the Warn, but either winch option will result in a synthetic rope and put the steel cable on the other winch.



So, what say ye?

I’m thinking the Badlands because I rarely use the winch and it’s pretty much ready to go. The Warn is going to take a bit of work to put back together and make sure it’s operational. Realistically, it could probably use a good cleaning before reassemble, which = more work. And I’m hoping everything is operational afterwards. May need a couple more parts.

 

[LBarr2002]

The badlands will be fine until you get in a situation with a lot of winching, then you'll wish you invested in the 9.5ti. I had a 10k Engo on mine until a windrock trip down trail 21. Then I went looking for something with faster line speed.

 

[shawn]

8274

 

[rockcity]

8274

If only I could find one for $200…

 

[shawn]

If only I could find one for $200…

$200 winch on a $60k JL?

 

[rockcity]

$200 winch on a $60k JL?

Already spent too much on the jeep. No $ left.

 

[StretchASU]

Badlands. Unless you plan to overland in the JL. Then you need the Warn, because you can’t overland without the big name brand parts. Otherwise it’s just driving through the woods.

 

[rockcity]

Badlands. Unless you plan to overland in the JL. Then you need the Warn, because you can’t overland without the big name brand parts. Otherwise it’s just driving through the woods.

Couldn’t I just put the Warn sticker on the Badlands? Would that work?

 

[StretchASU]

Couldn’t I just put the Warn sticker on the Badlands? Would that work?

Just set the Warn in place, take a picture then photoshop it in as needed for the gram.

 

[WARRIORWELDING]

One that works checks my boxes, I don't duck hunt. I could care less about a remote. I'd most likely always run it by myself so I see no need in walking away and spooling at the same time.
I err on caution every time I have ran one so no need to go back and forth or whatever quickly.

 

[Jason W.]

8274

Negative, sits too high, will cause excessive engine heat on hard pulls, there us a reason most modern jeeps have low winch mounts or reseced

 

[rockcity]

Warn for the overlander street cred.

 

[shawn]

heat on hard pulls

JL? Hard pull?

Better be careful with that big talk. You'll get your loafers mucky.

 

[Caver Dave]

Warn for the overlander street cred.

For reference, what synthetic and length is that?

 

[rockcity]

For reference, what synthetic and length is that?

Warn rope, I think 95’ or maybe 125’. I know it’s at least 95’ but I’m of the type to stuff as much on there as I can, so I could very likely have ordered 125’ to give it a shot.

 

[1stgenxxx]

Can you get a conversion plug and use a badlands wireless remote on the Warn?

 

[rockcity]

Can you get a conversion plug and use a badlands wireless remote on the Warn?

Unlikely. Warn uses some odd propriotory plug style.

Only option would be to cut the wires and install a generic 6pin trailer wiring plug or something easier to find.

Rather than spending time and $ to Frankenstein the plug, $90 for a warn plug and I’m good.

 

[jeepinmatt]

Can you get a conversion plug and use a badlands wireless remote on the Warn?

Unlikely. Warn uses some odd propriotory plug style.

Only option would be to cut the wires and install a generic 6pin trailer wiring plug or something easier to find.

Rather than spending time and $ to Frankenstein the plug, $90 for a warn plug and I’m good.

I used the nicer HF Apex wireless kit (Wireless Winch Remote) on my XD9000i, and all I had to do was jump 1 wire in the solenoid box. I believe it was making a switched ground to constant ground like the older Warns. I liked that solution because the Warn remote will still work, and the Badlands is only $60 with a nice case and a wired or wireless option.

 

[jeepinmatt]

Here you go:

Did a little tinkering last night, and it was super easy. I might post a something in the tech second with more details, but all I had to do was open up the solenoid cover on the XD9000i and run a jumper from the red constant ground (12v -) to the brown switched ground so that all 4 solenoids had a constant ground. Thats it. Pretty darn easy.

 

[OnlyOneDR]

Negative, sits too high, will cause excessive engine heat on hard pulls, there us a reason most modern jeeps have low winch mounts or reseced

Yeah, because 99% of the winches available are less expensive planetary gearbox with brake inside the drum and thus the majority of bumpers are made to fit those. An upright winch has the benefits of a narrower install, no heat on the drum when braking (which is a concern for synthetic rope), and a faster unloaded line speed, but the "last winch standing" 8274 costs more than most people want to spend. They can be mounted down in the bumper or up on top on a mounting plate since they mount foot forward like a planetary.

If engine cooling is a concern for an overloaded vehicle with larger, heavier tires, possibly incorrect gearing, taller stance with more wind resistance, and too much extra weight from bumpers, winches, and gear then upgrading the engine cooling system is in order. I upgraded the radiator on my Frontier since it weighs 2400# more than it did when stock and the engine works a lot harder all the time. The only time I had a cooling issue was when the fan clutch decided to quit, and it has an 8274 on the front built into the bumper.