Winch help

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I have a Warn hs9500i. It pulls but not like it should. I know nothing about them. It pulls my Toyota out of almost any spot, but it hasn't been strong enough a couple of times. Any ideas or anybody local repair them? No funny noises or anything from it.
 
remember, it is only 9500 on the last loop of cable around the drum. With each additional layer it becomes less and less powerful. If you need more power, try a snatch block attached to the vehicle/object that you want to anchor to and then bring the hook back to your vehicle. This will esentially double the pulling power.

NOTE: This is also been known to find the weakest point on the bumper/winch plate.
 
what do you have powering it ? stock alt on a Toyota is approx 55amp if I remember right, which lasts about 3 seconds on a winch pull.

cable size and connections to the battery make a big difference as well. also how much battery do you have ? an 800ca battery doesn't last long when you're pulling 400+ amps on a line pull. ( consider that the factory 1.4kw toyota starter, with 2ga cables powering, draws 280amps when starting truck in gear on an incline )

the hs9500i pulls 425amps at full load ( 9500lb pull ) , so figure you're pulling approx 350amps on a tough pull, which draws the battery down in a hurry, and the further it gets drawn down, the more amps are pulled ( weaker power causes more amp draw ) which just sucks the life out of the battery.
 
Stock alternator and a red top. Winch wired directly to side posts of battery. Last time out, I had my front bumper against a tree, truck in neutral at 3-4k RPM's, and was winching straight ahead to a snatch block and then back to a stock 4Runner. I couldn't get the Runner out. It just seems weak.
 
To begin with, wires to the side posts, a very bad idea! Side posts on a red top are internally connected to the top posts. Thin and will eventually fail. First thing to remember is that no matter what alternator you run, it will not run your winch at load. It will only replenish your battery faster. The red top doesn't like a fast charge, just will not accept it. Also, The red top is not the optimal(pun intended) winch battery. I have three, I speak from experience. If you cables have good connection and the terminals are clean, the battery is still probably your culprit. Another thing to remember is that the worst possible thing you can do to your winch motor, is starve it of power.
 
upnover said:
To begin with, wires to the side posts, a very bad idea! Side posts on a red top are internally connected to the top posts. Thin and will eventually fail. First thing to remember is that no matter what alternator you run, it will not run your winch at load. It will only replenish your battery faster. The red top doesn't like a fast charge, just will not accept it. Also, The red top is not the optimal(pun intended) winch battery. I have three, I speak from experience. If you cables have good connection and the terminals are clean, the battery is still probably your culprit. Another thing to remember is that the worst possible thing you can do to your winch motor, is starve it of power.
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What about the side posts on a yellow top? Are they acceptable for winch hook up?
 
The cable might be the issue. Just kiddin. Really, Shawn's runner was deep against that bank and I dont think we had the right angle. Remember it took a couple different pulls from Roberts truck at different angles. Like they said, try a different battery or add a battery to the system.
 
Agree with what upnover said. Your probably killing the red top a little bit more with every pull. They do not like a fast charge from an alternator, and require a deep cycle recharging. In fact, most batteries do not like to be fully drained and then charged through the alt. but the gell cell's especially so.
 
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