Stock market investments now or later and who?

Will Carter said:
... I was just happy with the 50% and moved on with my day.

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Then somedays it does exactly what you think it's going to do so you're obliged to sit/stand at the desk all day and print the money.

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Will Carter said:
I don’t do stocks. I trade futures contracts.
Between 1 micro ES and 5 e-mini ES contracts any given day. A lot of my sizing depends on how I feel mentally and emotionally. I didn’t sleep for shit last night, and it’s a Friday and the sun is shining which looks a lot more inviting out the window. So today is probably a 5 micro max kinda day.

If that’s what you’re asking.
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You might want to explain futures contracts to people before they wake up one morning to find out they're $150k upside down on some $spy.

I get what you're doing, but I wouldn't touch futures with a ten foot pole. Don't need that kind of stress. They could buy uncovered calls and puts if they want to play along... At least that way the downside risk is defined.

I know a guy that wanted somebody to make an alarm clock that was red/yellow/green for his overnight futures positions, and would go off if it got "really red". :laughing:
 
shawn said:
You might want to explain futures contracts to people before they wake up one morning to find out they're $150k upside down on some $spy.
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SPY isn't futures. That's the cash index. Just like any other share of any other stock. I'm calling the prices on the SPY shares like you'd do it for any other stock. You'd have to have a 1.5 million dollar account, betting it all on one trade, at 10x leverage, to come close to losing $150k in a day on SPY. Didn't figure that was the case with anybody passing the time on a 4x4 site.

A working man with a $100k of 401k could buy all in with no leverage and only be risking a percent or two on any given day. That's not extreme risk.

shawn said:
I get what you're doing, but I wouldn't touch futures with a ten foot pole. Don't need that kind of stress. They could buy uncovered calls and puts if they want to play along... At least that way the downside risk is defined.
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Options are for wusses who can't read the chart. I'm just kidding, I don't fully understand options. Seems dumb to be upside down on a position from the start though.

The downside is always defined in whatever you trade if you know what you're doing. Stop losses. They go in automatically when you place a position. Now knowing where to put them... that's where the diamond hands come in ... Smart people only risk 1-3% of their account sizes if they want to survive.

shawn said:
I know a guy that wanted somebody to make an alarm clock that was red/yellow/green for his overnight futures positions, and would go off if it got "really red". :laughing:
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Yeah, he's doing it wrong.
 
Let's do it different. Somebody call out the stocks you want to buy/sell and let's analyze them.

When you're trading right it get's pretty boring during the day. Fortunately I've been pretty bored recently. This thread gives me something to look at and practice with.

So what do we want to buy? Or what do we already own that we're consider holding/selling?


I clicked the mouse 8 times today and quit at 11:30 cause I didn't see anything else I liked. Today closed at 1:00 anyway.

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Will Carter said:
Let's do it different. Somebody call out the stocks you want to buy/sell and let's analyze them.

When you're trading right it get's pretty boring during the day. Fortunately I've been pretty bored recently. This thread gives me something to look at and practice with.

So what do we want to buy? Or what do we already own that we're consider holding/selling?


I clicked the mouse 8 times today and quit at 11:30 cause I didn't see anything else I liked. Today closed at 1:00 anyway.

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Do Tesla. Seems to be a hot topic.
 
jeepinmatt said:
Do Tesla. Seems to be a hot topic.
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What's our time frame? We trying to hold for days, weeks, or months?

Edit: Days would be more fun if you want to really place the trade.

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Daily: Currently siting right in the middle of a range. Both longs and shorts have made money in the past 30 days. So there's nothing to do except wait right now.

Weekly: Anybody that bought in May got out at break even a couple weeks later. Anybody that sold back beginning of June got out break even this week. So weekly says wait too.

Hard wait.
 
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Will Carter said:
What's our time frame? We trying to hold for days, weeks, or months?

Edit: Days would be more fun if you want to really place the trade.

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Daily: Currently siting right in the middle of a range. Both longs and shorts have made money in the past 30 days. So there's nothing to do except wait right now.

Weekly: Anybody that bought in May got out at break even a couple weeks later. Anybody that sold back beginning of June got out break even this week. So weekly says wait too.

Hard wait.
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Well that is boring. How bout Tyson foods?
 
jeepinmatt said:
Well that is boring. How bout Tyson foods?
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Daily bulls made money last week. They might want some more. But Thursday was a high probability sell so they'll at least step aside and let some sellers get their fill. If bulls can hold them above. 54.26 this week and print a good looking bull bar one or two days it might be buy. If sellers break the range and can close one below 53.92 they might want to keep selling. Their current target is 53.74 but let's see if bulls can keep then out of the money this week. It's too late to short it (That was Thursday sell). So we're waiting.
 
Will Carter said:
SPY isn't futures. That's the cash index. Just like any other share of any other stock. I'm calling the prices on the SPY shares like you'd do it for any other stock. You'd have to have a 1.5 million dollar account, betting it all on one trade, at 10x leverage, to come close to losing $150k in a day on SPY. Didn't figure that was the case with anybody passing the time on a 4x4 site.

A working man with a $100k of 401k could buy all in with no leverage and only be risking a percent or two on any given day. That's not extreme risk.



Options are for wusses who can't read the chart. I'm just kidding, I don't fully understand options. Seems dumb to be upside down on a position from the start though.

The downside is always defined in whatever you trade if you know what you're doing. Stop losses. They go in automatically when you place a position. Now knowing where to put them... that's where the diamond hands come in ... Smart people only risk 1-3% of their account sizes if they want to survive.



Yeah, he's doing it wrong.
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Stops only work if there's a buyer.

Guy I was referencing ran a hedge fund. Big trades.
 
Will Carter said:
Nice. Wednesday was a decent buy. You get on it @benXJ?

If this week (Friday close) is above $1.61 that's a reasonable buy as well. For a weekly setup. You're not too late. Even better if it takes out 4.30.
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Was traveling today. Missed action. In the dark as I type this. Will be plugged in tomorrow morning before market opens. I bought way low a week ago and doubled at sale. Tracking....
 
shawn said:
Stops only work if there's a buyer.

Guy I was referencing ran a hedge fund. Big trades.
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Don't trade dumb shit and there'll be buyers. This is why I trade SPY/ES. I'll be long retired before I could ever outgrow the volume capacity of those.

Ran or runs a hedge fund? If he's worried about the overnight move against him he's trading too big for his fund. My original statement stands.

For about $300 in paperwork I can have a hedge fund too.
 
Might buy the close on that Tyson. Would only risk .5% of your account. To be able to add on later the other .5%. Stop is under 53.90. Have to hold this target to 2:1 - 59.69 as it's lower probability.

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benXJ said:
Was traveling today. Missed action. In the dark as I type this. Will be plugged in tomorrow morning before market opens. I bought way low a week ago and doubled at sale. Tracking....
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Bulls made money.
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Bears made money.
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That’s trading range action so if you’re given a day or two spike that makes 2:1 risk reward you should probably take some money off and be prepared to add it back on again when it’s a better buy.
A better buy in a trading range is often the original buy. Bulls who missed out are saying ‘man I wish I had…’ and they do when it revisits. But you want to wait for a good bull bar to print for the day and buy that close. Cause the bears know the bulls are waiting, and they’ll push hard to run the stops of those 2nd chance bulls.

Look where a 1:1 takes you if you’re a bear who sold the close of Tuesday. So you got bears who are taking profit (buying out of shorts) and bulls who want in cause they missed it or want it again (buying longs).
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Ron said:
I've debated putting this here - but I am going to and explain why a bit.

First, if you take investment advice exclusively from an offroad forum you deserve whatever you may get.
If you take investment advice from me exclusively you are a DA.

Do what you will how you will.

But this is a rare case where I have a long time friend in a uniquely knowledgeable position. To be clear he is not involved with the company I am about to mention - but is adjacent and as some knowledge that makes his advice credible to me.
I have thought about sharing this a few times but have not because I dont want to be seen as giving advice and then someone lose money.

However we are all sort of friends here and if I found out a freind of mine had a great opportunity and didn't at least share it - I might be a little let down. So in that vein...

And to be 100% clear - this is a "penny stock" way more risk than a traditional stock, but also way more potential upside.
Do your own due diligence make your own decisions etc etc.

This should never be a significant portion of your investment, but could be a fun little gamble. Like blackjack casino money.

I December of this year my above mentioned friend told me about this "too good to be true" company. Did a little digging and liked what I found.
I had $5k sitting in my IRA that was just in a nothing account so I figured give it shot and if it goes up in smoke - oh well.

Anyway stock symbol is RITE.
Its a mining/real estate play.

I bought in December at 0.0004 per share. Today its at .0022.
Person who told me about it says its expected to be in the .80-1.00 range by year end. There is reason to believe this is possible...but again do your own homework.
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0.003 today.
Nice little run
 
I sold my Boeing stock about 2 weeks ago for 0% profit after owning it for a few years. :(

I bought more QQQ this morning.
 
Been locked out of my robinhood account for 2 weeks. Somehow I bundled switching phones and got them both logged out 🤣 Now both phones say to check my other device for login. That said, I have no idea how my investments are doing lately ha
 
awheelterd said:
Been locked out of my robinhood account for 2 weeks. Somehow I bundled switching phones and got them both logged out 🤣 Now both phones say to check my other device for login. That said, I have no idea how my investments are doing lately ha
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This caused me to login to Robinhood and check the only thing I have there.
Hey look, my DOGE is still around 70% of what I paid.
Guess it will continue to sit.
 
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