2017 Jeep Cherokee Oil Consumption

Fabrik8 said:
Go to a different dealer than the one you purchased it from, and talk to them about it. Any dealer can do warranty work, and there are some conflict of interest things that tend to happen when something expensive starts to show itself during service at the dealer that sold the vehicle.

Free oil changes should not build loyalty; you should find a dealer who gives a shit about a basically-new vehicle burning that much oil after 20k miles.

Or, just dump it.
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I actually do go to a different dealer. I bought it from M&L but Crown is much closer for me, so that's where I have been taking it for service.
 
Cherokeekid88 said:
This is sort of where my head is at. Keep it (only 2 years left to owe) and just make sure to keep oil in it knowing (to me) that something isn't right, which could lead to bigger problems once its out of warranty or trade it in for something else and basically start over....
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yeah if it was me Id put it online for sale....find a buyer on my timeline and go pick up an 8-10 year old vehicle I could pay cash for and call it a win-win....newer of course if you can get more than you owe on it, which given that its a jeep thats doubtful
 
Yeah I don’t think I wrapped my head around how much oil it was using. That is excessive I agree. Just keep a check on it till you decide what to do with it.

I do agree with buying a vehicle for cash and rolling on worry free!
 
Higher fuel mileage better power equals higher oil consumption and higher use of particular petroleum related.

Sounds like modern diesel engine tech as well.

Engineered to fail at something....do two things really well and let the other suffer.

Cheap. Good. Or Quick.
 
I'm going to check my records to see when my last oil change was actually done. Seems like it takes me quite a while to actually get to the actual mileage date of my next oil change (usually a year or longer) but usually get it done every 6 months or so, but I think its been quite a bit longer than that since my last oil change, even thought I had only driven it a little over 3k miles. Going to try and keep a log as well and as much of a pain its going to be, go every 1k miles to have an oil consumption test done to see what's actually going on.
 
I see plenty of oil consumption issues with newer hondas. A better oil helps. We use eneos because its pretty affordable and seems way better than mobil 1 as far as consumption. My own vehicles get either motul or redline.
 
I have heard horror stories of mini coopers that don't even have dipsticks, owners only change the oil when the maint. light comes on...and the tech pulls the plug to find no oil in the engine. I bet 50% of new car buyers don't even know how to open the hood of their car.

Your oil usage is excessive....in spec, probably...but excessive. I daily an inherited saab 2.3l Turbo that has a 4 qt. fill, that thing DESTROYS oil between changes, and I have never seen it lose more than 1 qt. every 3k miles.

Dump it, call it a learning experience, and buy something with cash.
 
RHSCTJ said:
I see plenty of oil consumption issues with newer hondas. A better oil helps. We use eneos because its pretty affordable and seems way better than mobil 1 as far as consumption. My own vehicles get either motul or redline.
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Idemitsu is a good choice too. It used to be the OEM Honda oil, but I think Honda switched manufacturers a few years ago.
 
rockmafia said:
I've seen enough Dave Ramsey to know that if you called him he'd tell you "sell your stupid car" even if it didn't drink oil.
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Yeah, I know. Wife's car is getting ready to be paid off, we have been implementing the snowball effect on our bills and made it to her car payment a couple of months ago and have been taking our savings from our other bills being paid off and putting it all towards her car payment, once her car is paid for, the plan was to start snowballing my car payment which has 2 years left if I make the minimum payment which id like to cut in half by paying double. Problem is, if I sell it, paying outright for a reliable car just isn't feasible right now. I hope to eventually get to this point, but I will tell you that even eliminating the 3 bills we have paid off has really made a difference for us and really enjoy making that "last payment" and being done with it.

But I did go back and look at my records and last time my oil was changed was 06/01/2019. Was scheduled for December, didn't get changed till last week ( I know, shame on me but chit happens and diverts your attention sometimes). A little over 3500 miles on that oil change till the one this week. Called Crown back and tech said it was 4 qts low. So 4 qts in 9 months over 3500 miles.
 
Cherokeekid88 said:
Yeah, I know. Wife's car is getting ready to be paid off, we have been implementing the snowball effect on our bills and made it to her car payment a couple of months ago and have been taking our savings from our other bills being paid off and putting it all towards her car payment, once her car is paid for, the plan was to start snowballing my car payment which has 2 years left if I make the minimum payment which id like to cut in half by paying double. Problem is, if I sell it, paying outright for a reliable car just isn't feasible right now. I hope to eventually get to this point, but I will tell you that even eliminating the 3 bills we have paid off has really made a difference for us and really enjoy making that "last payment" and being done with it.

But I did go back and look at my records and last time my oil was changed was 06/01/2019. Was scheduled for December, didn't get changed till last week ( I know, shame on me but chit happens and diverts your attention sometimes). A little over 3500 miles on that oil change till the one this week. Called Crown back and tech said it was 4 qts low. So 4 qts in 9 months over 3500 miles.
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I'm not attacking you, please dont take it that way, but as someone who was a Financial Peace Leader, for the Ramsey plan you are missing the gazelle intensity he talks about.
Another analogy, if you had cancer would you wait to get it treated for a year because it was inconvenient to go to the doctor right now? Of course you wouldn't. Car debt is as deadly to your finances as cancer is to your health. (In his view point) so being willing to wait a year show a lack of commitment. $5k will buy a very reliable car. it may not be as nice as your Jeep but it would buy a reliable car.

Again its your life feel free to choose whichever just be honest with yourself and say "I dont want to give up my nice ride to be debt free. Status/comfort/whatever is more important than being out of debt. Thats a perfectly acceptable viewpoint. Just don't lie to yourself and say "I cant. One is a viewpoint of power and control, one is a submissive and self-pity viewpoint. Always empower yourself, the world tries hard enough to strip your power away.

Oil changes have a life and mileage component because temp cycles can cause internal condensation and contaminant based breakdown. Not sure tha'ts what you are experiencing but its possible, I suppose.
Id be curious how long your commute is and how frequently the car is cycled without the engine oil getting to operating temp.
 
Ron said:
I'm not attacking you, please dont take it that way, but as someone who was a Financial Peace Leader, for the Ramsey plan you are missing the gazelle intensity he talks about.
Another analogy, if you had cancer would you wait to get it treated for a year because it was inconvenient to go to the doctor right now? Of course you wouldn't. Car debt is as deadly to your finances as cancer is to your health. (In his view point) so being willing to wait a year show a lack of commitment. $5k will buy a very reliable car. it may not be as nice as your Jeep but it would buy a reliable car.

Again its your life feel free to choose whichever just be honest with yourself and say "I dont want to give up my nice ride to be debt free. Status/comfort/whatever is more important than being out of debt. Thats a perfectly acceptable viewpoint. Just don't lie to yourself and say "I cant. One is a viewpoint of power and control, one is a submissive and self-pity viewpoint. Always empower yourself, the world tries hard enough to strip your power away.

Oil changes have a life and mileage component because temp cycles can cause internal condensation and contaminant based breakdown. Not sure tha'ts what you are experiencing but its possible, I suppose.
Id be curious how long your commute is and how frequently the car is cycled without the engine oil getting to operating temp.
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Ron,
I don't take this as you attacking me at all, never have in anything you say. To be honest, I respect it. I took the Ramsey snowball effect logic and placed into my life as best I could. A few years ago, I was perfectly fine with financing this and financing that and basically spending all of my money as long as I had nice things. Now, I am trying to repair what damage I did then along with doctor bills for my wife and daughter, so I am trying to adapt this philosophy as best as I can. I am not a perfect example of the Dave Ramsey deal, but I am trying. I am doing a hell of a lot better than I ever have and I am proud of myself for what my wife and I have accomplished so far, but we do have a long way to go, but I think we are on the right path, or at least looking at it. I feel blessed to be so close to paying off the wife's car and possibly have mine paid off within the next 1.5 years. My mentality has changed for sure when it comes to paying something off because it used to mean "Got this paid off, now go get something else"

But my commute is very short. less than 10 miles a day total during the week if we don't go anywhere after work. I doubt the oil temp gets up to where it should be during the week. So like you said, I don't know how much of a role that plays in my dilemma.
 
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