207 students suspended for dress code

992door

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In Wilson county 207 students were suspended for 3 day yes 3 days for dress code violations all of them were 1st time offenders. I mean really do they really have nothing better to do in school that to suspend them for 3 days for not having a shirt tail tucked in. I mean i can see it if you have got on them about it a couple of time but even then it should not be 3 days maybe 1 or 2 or have them help the janitor for a day. I dont know why I am recently on the school crap but i just think that they have to may rules now and try to do nothing but enforce them which takes away from their learning experience.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6415554/
 
992door said:
In Wilson county 207 students were suspended for 3 day yes 3 days for dress code violations all of them were 1st time offenders. I mean really do they really have nothing better to do in school that to suspend them for 3 days for not having a shirt tail tucked in. I mean i can see it if you have got on them about it a couple of time but even then it should not be 3 days maybe 1 or 2 or have them help the janitor for a day. I dont know why I am recently on the school crap but i just think that they have to may rules now and try to do nothing but enforce them which takes away from their learning experience.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6415554/
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161 the first day, 47 the second. Sounds like its working.
Evidently, he did not get (his shirt) tucked in fast enough, and the teacher said, 'You have to got the office. You are suspended,'" Anthony said. "I was fuming. I was beyond mad."
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I would be mad at my middle school kid too if he didn't tuck his pants in after being warned that there would be consequences, but I don't think that's what the parent means. How "fast" should he have to be, considering he knew before he left for school.

Not saying the punishment fits the crime, but obviously these kids either were aware and chose to break the rules, or weren't aware but wouldn't have cared anyway.
 
they get suspended for NOT having their shirts tucked in? that's ignorant, and WAY over the top. i've never tucked in a t-shirt with shorts, and never would...just looks dumb
 
The ideal is to get he parents to do something. If the kids got sent home for 3 days I'm sure the parents noticed and decided to get their kids in order.
 
I'd say that this is more of a distraction to the students than having an untucked shirt. I believe if I were a teacher, I would be livid over something this ridiculous.
 
With that many kids I would say it was more of a protest than like a kid took a dump and forgot to tuck his shirt back in.
 
soooo if I am a student and I dont tuck my shirt in I get a 3 day vaca...errrr...suspension...yeah that would have worked well against me at 15.
 
This far into the school year, 3 days is what they get. Dress code problems are discipline problems. At some point the administration has to put their foot down.
 
SkyHiK5 said:
soooo if I am a student and I dont tuck my shirt in I get a 3 day vaca...errrr...suspension...yeah that would have worked well against me at 15.
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he he he...sounds familiar! :rolleyes:
 
As a parent - I'd be pissed if the school didn't follow the process they defined. I read the article on WRAL when it happened.

Here is what was stated about the policy: "At the beginning of the school year, students would serve lunch detention for a first offense, after-school detention for a second offense and a three-day suspension for a third offense.

Now, she said, first and all subsequent violations of the policy result in three-day suspensions.":

IF they changed the policy and forewarned the students and parents ahead of time - then fair enough. They knew the the consequences.

However, if the school changed that to suspend on first offense without telling the students and parents - I'd call BS. Put my kid back and follow your darn rules. It appears that they gave notice that it would be immediate suspension.

At least they didn't offer to let them back in school for a 20 dollar donation....http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6396687/.

In that case, the principal accepted the recommendation of the schools advisory board for fund raising to initiate the plan. The OK for the plan was her responsibility, and she ended up resigning. It shows a lot of integrity for accepting the responsibility for the approval and resigning. According to the staff and parents she was a good principal. I hope she lands on her feet - good educators in our NC with our low teachers salary are hard to find. I'd rather have someone like her as the principal when compared to the one at my kid's school. The kids principal always comes as as self promotional.
 
I know the rules are the rules and you got to play by the rules but come on. I have a daughter in high school and I see problems that should be a little more important than the dress code. In her school they have test scores dropping,a rising drop out rate,over crowding and even had a teacher who was deported a couple weeks into the school year last year. With problems like that they have time to worry about shirts tucked in?
 
I agree that rules have to be enforced, and sometimes only brute force/fear will do teh trick.
However, the punishment here simply does not fit the crime.
I can almost even see 1 day, but 3?
big exams/projects, etc. That
Keep in mind, technically ANY work missed due to suspension can NOT be made up and counts as un-done.
Imagine being, say, a junior or senior this time of year, during any 3 day period you could easily have 1-3 big exams/projects, etc. Now imagine eating a 0 on those. That could easily torpedo your grade(s) for a class(s). Now you are in the proceiss of applying to colleges and suddenly have this horrible semeter to report on your apps, plus the suspension... that could be devastating. Plus, many extra-curriculars automatically suspend/drop you for a suspension.

I don't think I tucked my shirt in once in HS, and that was at Cary.
 
RatLabGuy said:
I agree that rules have to be enforced, and sometimes only brute force/fear will do teh trick.
However, the punishment here simply does not fit the crime.
I can almost even see 1 day, but 3?
big exams/projects, etc. That
Keep in mind, technically ANY work missed due to suspension can NOT be made up and counts as un-done.
Imagine being, say, a junior or senior this time of year, during any 3 day period you could easily have 1-3 big exams/projects, etc. Now imagine eating a 0 on those. That could easily torpedo your grade(s) for a class(s). Now you are in the proceiss of applying to colleges and suddenly have this horrible semeter to report on your apps, plus the suspension... that could be devastating. Plus, many extra-curriculars automatically suspend/drop you for a suspension.
I don't think I tucked my shirt in once in HS, and that was at Cary.
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The article said any and all work could be made up, and this is a middle school we're talking about, not high school.
 
UTfball68 said:
The article said any and all work could be made up, and this is a middle school we're talking about, not high school.
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woops

well shit, then. Lets see...
I'm 11-12. Lets think liek a pre-teen boy.
I can either (a) conform to the stupid rules, or (b) be a rebel and look like a badass until I get suspended. Then get 3 days off of school to goof off and can make up the work, hell maybe just do it at home. Then come back and brag to my buddies about how I got suspended for bein ga non-conformist.
If this had been in effect in, er, 1988 I'd have been suspended. Several times.
 
Good point...but then also keep in mind that some school districts in NC have an absence policy...more than 20 or so and you repeat the grade. Not to mention the fact, my ass would have been worn out by my parents had I gotten suspended for any reason...the rules are the rules, especially if you were forewarned. Not saying I agree with it, personally I think there should be more leniancy, but there's no way in hell parents will re-inforce the discipline that should be instilled in these kids. Now suspensions are laughable at best, and a source of pride, it's no longer a punishment...and I put that blame squarely on the shoulders of the parents.
 
well i agree rules are rules but when will these rules stop? there are so many rules in place now that are stupid.

i dont know what it is whith middle schools here lately but i saw an article eailer where a bunch were taken to jail for a food fight! booked, fingerprinted and everything!

and our absence policy when i was in school not too long ago was 8 a semester
 
now that was dumb. I mean the teachers cant even control kids now. Instead of calling the cops have the kids that did it clean the lunch room everday for a week or 2 but dont call the cops
 
I think some discipline is good (had dress code at my HS) but they changed their tune half way into the semester. If they had stuck to what they said they were gonna do, then ok.

Now for next semester, if they changed it then fair game.

I guess they just got fed up with all the punks pissing em off and decided to drop the hammer on a technicality.
 
I believe uniforms are a good thing.
However tucked in shirts leave far too much to interpretation. I mean what if they talked into gym class while you were playing basketball or maybe the kid reached up high and his shirt became untucked.

I am all for enforcing rules and I as a parent believe in supporting the teaches as much as possible.

Having said all that, I still remember being 14....and BTW in SC by law out of school suspension days CAN NOT count as absences....this coming from the kid who spent a period of his childhood in a "reform" boarding school so lets say I am familiar with the rules or at least what they were in the 80s and early 90s.

Hell if they want to punish the kids they'd give them in school suspension.
 
As said rules are rules, and if they don't conform, then reap the punishment. I don't think 3 days is what fits the crime. After school detention, cleaning something for a week, Essay on rules, something that will keep them IN school, not out!

I am thinking the rule was put into place to keep them from "sagging" , Something I absolutely think is just plain stupid. Some kids I know would wear a t-shirt out, because of weight issues. Tucked in will show off more of their roll. I am 6'2" and I do wear my shirts tucked in, but when I was in school, it may have started off in, as active as I was, it would come out quick. At my height I only wear a 32" inseam, so unless the shirt is really long, it would come out easily if I was active.

I have real issues with the public school these days as it is. Seems teachers for the most part aren't educators. They are there for a check. I think all teachers should be there to teach, in anyway they can to help a student learn the information they need. Kids learn in different ways, and at different paces. But, it is all designed to teach at one pace, and one way.
 
This is bullshit either let them wear what they want (to a certain point) or make them wear uniforms but dont screw up my kids education because his damn shirt was un tucked. In my hs we didnt have a/c and it was hot as hell I would be damned if if would have tucked my shirt in.
 
RatLabGuy said:
woops
well shit, then. Lets see...
I'm 11-12. Lets think liek a pre-teen boy.
I can either (a) conform to the stupid rules, or (b) be a rebel and look like a badass until I get suspended. Then get 3 days off of school to goof off and can make up the work, hell maybe just do it at home. Then come back and brag to my buddies about how I got suspended for bein ga non-conformist.
If this had been in effect in, er, 1988 I'd have been suspended. Several times.
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I'd have invoked Godwin's law and gone to the army surplus store and gotten a german uniform or have gotten an orange jumpsuit. The outfit would fit the letter of the rules, but would be absolutely certain to destroy/defy the intent.

That said, we didn't have weapon or gang issues they have now. I don't really know how much of these issues are FUD though. I'll find out eventually I guess.

J
 
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