An invitation to steal

Loganwayne said:
My parents live in a HOA its basically there for the road maintenance and to keep single wide trailers from coming in. supposedly no hunting allowed no farm animals blah blah blah. we hunt all over it we've had one person complain and the HOA told him we are in the country people hunt dont like it move to town or back to florida.
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Yeah...my folks had one that went legal. No issues for 15 years, dues were basically voluntary. Some crazy old bat moved in next door, didn't like us. She reported us for our commercial (tagged the 350 4x4's with commercial plates) in our driveway, per the bylaws...no commercial vehicles are supposed to be in the driveways from dusk until dawn. HOA head was nice about it, but with zero being enforced, and visible violations all over the neighborhood (size of exposed propane tanks being #1)...it was laughed out of court, and the HOA has since dissolved.
 
shawn said:
That's the problem. Sooner or later, somebody will buy a house in the neighborhood that has a problem with such things, they'll file a complaint, and the HOA has a statutory obligation to enforce the rules, up to and including putting a lien on your house.
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And that's fair because I'm technically breaking the rules. But the rules are prettty lax and the board is lax as well. Everything is laid back and not a big issue. The only time the board has ever sent out a formal letter to a homeowner was for past due HOA dues. And, that was because they were two years past due.

Bri and I want a new house to fit our needs but the one thing that's been slowing us down was that we love our neighbors and the neighborhood and don't want to leave.
 
rockcity said:
And that's fair because I'm technically breaking the rules. But the rules are prettty lax and the board is lax as well. Everything is laid back and not a big issue. The only time the board has ever sent out a formal letter to a homeowner was for past due HOA dues. And, that was because they were two years past due.

Bri and I want a new house to fit our needs but the one thing that's been slowing us down was that we love our neighbors and the neighborhood and don't want to leave.
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Stockholm syndrome - Wikipedia
 
Happily, there's been a lot of backlash against HOAs for a however many years and a lot of people are actively searching for houses withouts HOAs because they're so sick of dealing with them. It's funny when "no HOA" is a selling feature in MLS listings.
 
it is against case precedent to enforce a private contract that endangers public safety or creates liability on the public.

im very curious as to their reasoning for this
 
Last place we lived at had a HOA, wife got yelled at by one of the community "leaders" for decorating the mailbox. But the neighbors down the road that were on the board had nothing said to them with their decorations. New house doesn't have a HOA which is unusual for Charlotte. It's an older community with lots of retirees. I couldn't imagine living in one where I had to have approval to do anything to my property. There have been talks about starting one here but its been largely ignored or shot down when its brought up.
 
When we were house shopping, we took the county school map and overlaid that with what was oustide city limits, and then found out where there no HOAs. The remaining area is where we looked to buy.

Our house and neighborhood was built in the late 60s into early 70s. There was apparently an unofficial "neighbors group" that got together occasionally for beer, tea, and cards. Between them they worked out any issues, face to face, like neighbors. Over time that older generation has moved on, died out, etc, but the general feel has stayed the same. People live here specifically b/c they don't want to be in the city and generally want to be left alone, but understand and value getting along w/ their neighbors.
 
ckruzer said:
it is against case precedent to enforce a private contract that endangers public safety or creates liability on the public.

im very curious as to their reasoning for this
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It's probably very simple. They see something that needs enforcing, so they make a rule without any real knowledge of real-world impact. People on HOAs are usually just homeowners and don't usually have any experience in government, legislation, etc., so they just pass a rule without studying impact or consulting people who have experience in the topic. It works great when you're making rules about grass length and Christmas lights, but not so much when you're doing something that affects safety and property.

I don't have any government or legislation experience either, but I know enough to use common sense and find an objective view outside of my own viewpoint.

Obviously this decision was made in a vacuum, because no one with a brain in their head would actually consider something like that. It's like making sure no one has illegal pets by mandating that everyone leave their front door wide open during the day.


Also, people should let their homeowners insurance companies start kicking this retarded HOA in the balls from a legal standpoint. And they should also use the "a child predator can break into the house while out-of-sight in the garage", because nothing causes panic faster than the mere mention of a child predator threat.
 
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Fabrik8 said:
I don't have any government or legislation experience either, but I know enough to use common sense and find an objective view outside of my own viewpoint.
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This.
Fabrik8 said:
And they should also use the "a child predator can break into the house while out-of-sight in the garage", because nothing causes panic faster than the mere mention of a child predator threat.
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Also, extra points for the safety-of-the-children argument!
 
Every time I bitch about my HOA....I think of this episode of Duck Dynasty. One of the (many) funniest quotes by Jase.

"You mean to tell me that there is an organization out there that can tell me what I can and cannot do at my own house, and then I pay them for it?!"
 
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