any thoughts on the GM 8.1?? looking at a yukoin xl with a 8.1

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i know gas mileage sucks but so does the 6.0, from what i hear these seem to get 10mpg loaded and the 6.0 drops to single digits? i understand the use some oil, 1qt per 1200 or so miles, but i like the 2500 "bus" for the extra room as i want my family to expand. i also have a s10 to daily ride so i wont have to ride it everyday. i also hear a suv is weighted tag exempt??? so who if anybody uses or has owned a 8.1.
 
We used thrm in the gen business for many yeafs. Fuel mileage is very poor. Id be shocked if you got 10 empty to be honest. They do have a consumption rate...expect a quart to quart and a half every 3000.

Very very good power. And they will scream. Last a good long while. If you can handle the gas mileage and can check your oil I wouldnt hesitate to buy one.
 
o crap 10 empty if iam lucky?? damn i had a 85 454 bus that got 10mpg no matter what. towing or not
 
My brothers 2500HD/Allison has knocked down 13mpg empty and normally gets 9mpg towing everything (lawnmower/trailer to 13k# TT).
The guys on FSC swear an additional 5mpg is base for a ride along tune and ridiculous seat-of-pants power increase (no doubt involves decreasing the "save the tranny/axles/tires" setting).

When the right one comes along, there'll be one in my driveway!
 
i dont think it has a allison trans, but i havent seen it in person yet and the owner said he would have to ask his mechanic...

wonder what tuning there doing to them?
 
01-02 models have cam sensor problems, I have a friend who has an 02 he has put 3 cam sensors in his 2 napa 1 GM truck has about 180k and uses oil as all the others but overall it has been a very solid truck he tows a 8x12 enclosed trailer from job site to job site and he says he gets about 10 mpg up here in the mountains.
 
One of my bosses, probably got a lemon. He's had trouble several times; valves, lifters, pushrods. Hasn't mentioned gas mileage, but it sucks. He rarely tows, & nothing heavy. Still under 100K. our 1/2 ass mechanic did some head work on it 1 year ago, & it's skipping again! Boss says F--- it, drive it like it is!:shaking:
 
One of my bosses, probably got a lemon. He's had trouble several times; valves, lifters, pushrods. Hasn't mentioned gas mileage, but it sucks. He rarely tows, & nothing heavy. Still under 100K. our 1/2 ass mechanic did some head work on it 1 year ago, & it's skipping again! Boss says F--- it, drive it like it is!:shaking:

i dont like the sound of that.....
 
i dont think it has a allison trans, but i havent seen it in person yet and the owner said he would have to ask his mechanic...
wonder what tuning there doing to them?

the yukon doesnt have the allison trans, should be the 4l80e

I have gotten 9-11 towing my trailer with a load and 13-15 (highway) empty depending on my right foot, more towing power than most gas engines
 
Rich has an Avalanche with the 8.1. He will shoot you straight on the mileage and reliability of his.
 
Rich has an Avalanche with the 8.1. He will shoot you straight on the mileage and reliability of his.

He'll be able to give you real world info/MPG #s... *IF* you can get him to respond :flipoff2:

the yukon doesnt have the allison trans, should be the 4l80e
I have gotten 9-11 towing my trailer with a load and 13-15 (highway) empty depending on my right foot, more towing power than most gas engines

I believe they actually have the 4L85E (some minute difference in cluster gears, like more of them/different cuts?), which is still a decent tranny... just NOT an Allison! :lol:
 
He'll be able to give you real world info/MPG #s... *IF* you can get him to respond :flipoff2:
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:flipoff2: right back...

For the record, my truck is a '04 2500 avalanche. Same frame, drivetrain, etc. as the burb.. they just cut the back off.

Truck has a cat-back exhaust and I cut open the bottom of the airbox, and also has a dyno tune, in which we killed the torque management. the tune added a bunch of power and helped economy. Only other 'mod' is 265/75 A/T tires which replaced the very highway-oriented ones that came on it when I bought it.

Anyway.. empty, highway, 70-75 with some hills cruise control, 14-14.5mpg. Add a motorcycle in the bed (didn't extend above the roofline hardly at all) and 500lbs of wine, and it didn't change by more than .5mpg going to Indy and back.

Towing ~7,000 (my buggy on the open trailer) to VA and back, again, using cruise, right around 9mpg, with the truck and bed loaded with camping crap and spare parts, keeping it around 5 over. If I do the speed limit, I actually got right at 10mpg. I do not drop speed on the hills...just let it eat.

With a 7x16 tandem axle enclosed bike trailer (maybe 5-6k total), I dropped to low-mid 8's, the wind resistance was noticeable, dropping me out of overdrive on most hills. It also was mostly the same with an 8x20 enclosed.

The Class A guys with the 8.1 get 5-6 MPG moving that giant brick, so mileage can't get much worse.

What I've noticed -
Power is great, I wish i wish i wish for the Allison.. but the 4L85 isn't terrible once you adjust the grandma shifting out of it.
The ride is better than any 2500..period. (You don't have 4,000lb payload capacity like the 2500HD trucks though..whoopee.)
My engine burns 1/2 quart every 3000 miles. I run RotellaT 5w-40 synthetic, and change it when the computer says to.
Noisy lifters when cold. it goes away after a minute.
Exhaust manifold popped a stud out of the head, I hear it's not uncommon. It's not loud, but I know it's there.
Aftermarket support is slim. This isn't a 6.0.
You'll want to buy some 2" wheel spacers for the rear axle. Makes a good visual and stability improvement.

All in all, my neighbor's maggy-supercharged 1500 Avalanche will out tow mine, rides a little better, and pulls down a little better MPG. He's also spent $6k on the blower, $3k on the trans, and $1k on the rear end. No thanks. I'll stick with my big block.
 
He'll be able to give you real world info/MPG #s... *IF* you can get him to respond :flipoff2:
I believe they actually have the 4L85E (some minute difference in cluster gears, like more of them/different cuts?), which is still a decent tranny... just NOT an Allison! :lol:

yeah Dave sorry for the confusion, with an allison it would be a nice setup
 
thanks guys this has been very helpful, thanks rich for taking the time to post all of that info. iam supposed to meet up with the guy tomorrow afternoon and take a look at it. you will know if i get it. thanks again
 
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