Anybody seen falls lake lately?

Chuck I expect it from you. but its all these wannabe chucks we have trolling around i was bitching about

Eh, the only flamefest ive noticed was that guy that posted about getting shot at while he was trespassing.

Xj has had....some heated encouragment to get him on the right path and as proven by this thread it has worked. Or its beggining to work atleast.

Xjs doin better lately, he'll come around and be a respected member of the community sooner or later.

The difference between a leakin boat inthe water and a old leaky 4x4 is that the fishermen need the leaky boats to catch the fish that the leaky 4x4s are supposedly killing.

the fishermen arent gonna petition against themselves. besides, do you know what the state revenue is on boat registration and taxes in NC are? think they are gonna get rid of that! trust me, its WAYYYYY more then an ORV brings in.

as far as riding in a lake bed......actually, i dont know where i stand on that. if its illegal and bad for the environment i have to be against it, but it does sound hella fun! Ever seen the euro 4x4 time trial events! thats kinda what they do. just a big obsticle course. Have you ever seen a TATRA 6x6 go through a mudbog!!!
 
yeh it does sound fun. Where would one go abouts contacting the state or whoever would be in charge of saying you can drive on it or not? would it be the the wildlife enforcement patrol peoples that you see cruising around the lakes?

I once was chilling in a cove, taking a break from wakeboarding, when I heard the sound of a v8 redlining for about 5seconds, then i realized that the other boat in the cove had hit full throttle and shot up about 20 feet into the woods. They were all drunk and the guy fell on the throttle. It was the wildlife patrol that came and took care of the situation and hauled away the driver in cuffs.
 
careful, i just stuck my neck out for ya.

I wouldnt plan on driving in any dry lake bed except the salt flats. As mentioned before, back inthe 70s and 80s the power COs used to open the gates and let you wheel when it was low but not anymore. Too many greenies and lobbyist and lawyers. I dont think its any worse for the enviroment than an old boat as mentioned before, but you dont have to convince me, talk to the sierra club or greenpeace or Al Gore.
 
haha yeh i hear ya. I'm just curious to hear what they have to say. I wonder if they've even had anyone ask before. They'll prolly say no, but for the 1% chance they say ok i guess it would be worth it. prolly also depends on where....like at the outer banks, the ranger was ok with me and friends kneeboarding behind the jeep in the edge of the water because we followed both coast guard regulations and the rules there at the beach (life jacket, spotter, speeds less than 25 mph and just avoiding other people) but yet at carolina beach they denied me, even after i pointed out that i wasn't in any violations of written rules. O well no biggie.

and with my slack attitude i'm probably going to end up not calling, because it's just not that important to me.

So don't worry, im not going to do anything dumb.....plus, the beater cherokee stays at school, and my nice one is getting gears over break, so even if i wanted to, i've got no 4x4 vehicle. i can't wait to drive a toyota corolla!!
 
To actually answer the question...
I go over falls lake everyday to and from work. How bad it is depends on where you cross it. If you cross it on 50 coming out of Raleigh, it is down but doesn't look all that bad. If you cross it coming down 85, it is more like Falls Field. There are a few puddles, but it is completely dried up otherwise. If you want to go check it out, you should definately go down I-85 and see it. It's unreal.
 
I drive over Falls Lake every day going to work and I can agree with the "Falls Creek" except now there is hardly enough water to even look like a creek.
There was a recent incident where a guy walks out on Falls Lake to shoot carp with a bow and arrow and ended up getting buried up to his chest in 'quicksand-like' mud:
http://www.news-record.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071003/NRSTAFF/71003037/-1/NEWSRECRSSGNRL


Theres s good reason not to wheel!

i heard theres a lake in atlanta that was formed over an abonded highway and you can now drive acrross the lake on that highway way now if you were so inclined. Have not been ableto verify that claim yet, but it sounds cool.
 
I just now saw this article. We had a conference in Raleigh to talk about the water issues of the state. As Representative on this it is a tuff and scary matter. The big problem is not the drought but haow wasteful people are with water and the increase in population. We are at about 8 million people and we are projected to have another 4 million by 2030. At that point if not doing anything we will be in hurt. I will say where I am at we are trying to be proactive to get ourselves ahead of the curve.

Jordan lake is in very bad shape as well. Over here where I am at Lake Norman is not doing well and it is affecting the entire river chain. It is this low level I proposed this is the best opertunity to do some much needed maintence and cleaning of our lake bottoms. I have also been doing some research in the enviromental issues with 4wheeling and the effects to the enviroment. I will say so far I have not seen much it has been mainly just a few lead footed idiots that are causing the problems and ruining it for the rest of us. Thanks
 
So what is Raleigh (or surrounding areas) going to do with their facilities to accomodate the increase in population & water usage? This drought is obviously a wake-up call to those who manage these systems that we need to proactively upgrade our ability to store/transport water for the future.
 
Well the 1st stupid thing was an imediate 50% cut of water usage by all government instituations. This is schools prisons and other government buildings. Which is retarded because you need a transition time and phase it in because it is hard for people to come up imidately way to cut the water usuage.

As far as whats going to be done is a tuff thing because it is going to require all the people to rethink and live differently. It would also mean some retrofiting to structures and instituions to better manage water. The big talk is the balance of energy used and water supply. We could run desleination water treatment (take ocean water and getting the salt out) The problem is you use a ton of energy to make the water. This energy comes from our coal firing and other poluting power plants. So there is no simple fix, but there are solutions.

One of the big things is recycling water for multiple usage and usage of whats called gray water. This basically mean when you wash your hands, wash clothes, or take a shower it goes into a tank and from that tank your toilet water or irrigation water comes from. This has a little problem with the detergents in the water need to be filtered to be used for irrigation. Not a problem change our cleaning products to be Gray water friendly.

Another thing is to instal sisterns or rain barrels to houses. Collecting this run off and using it for different puposes around the house would not only lower your water bill but utialize the water we just let go.

But back to the Raleigh issue. One huge thing they are doing is being proactive with their water leak prevention. They constently go out to try to catch under water leaks before they get big and waste more water. This has actually saved more water than you would think. i think this is somthing that many other cities are looking into.

We are still working hard on this. It is tuff with so much stuff being inplace and trying to work around or with it to accomplish the overall goal. It is much easier for new building and struture to be set up from the start with these water and energy saving advantages. I feel that the building codes are going to get tougher and evenmore enviromentally friendly. if you have anymore questions or ideas feel free and ask. Just trying to help.
 
I went out there this weekend, the part I was at was probably down 12ft, we went out to see where good fishing structures are for when the water level goes back up. I did sink down about waste deep one time, if you do go out there, especially with your kids be careful of the dark brownish grey mud, it is deep. We found all kinds of things though and I'd say it would make a nice family trip.
 
Another thing is to instal sisterns or rain barrels to houses. Collecting this run off and using it for different puposes around the house would not only lower your water bill but utialize the water we just let go.

If people would do this, if nothing more than to use for watering lawns, I would think it would make a substantial impact. With gov't budgets stretched to the limit, I wonder if the they will upgrade their facilities to meet current needs and growth or just ask (force) people to use less water. I agree with you that people are very wasteful with their water usage. It's often taken for granted that we will have an unlimited supply to do whatever we want. Thanks for the info!
 
No problem. I know we are working on water saving ideas. Such as more rugged landscaping plants. Plants they are more drought tolerent. But watering landscape is such a small percentage for the Instituional side. It is mainly bathrooms and Schools kitchens and prisons landry that are the bigger users. These are the biggie we can address. The one huge one that we have no control is the cooling towers for HVAC systems. They require clean water to prevent bacterial growth and corrision. The one thing about these large system is they are well used and recicrculate their water. It typicaly has a 1-5% water lose through evaporation. Pretty efficent in my book.

You are also right be careful when you go out into these seemingly dried up lake beds. they may be dry on the surface their is still water underneth, so the ground is super soft. it is important to have a probe rod to help identify these "fluff areas"
 
Prison laundry?! make the criminals wear their clothes without washing them. What is this club med?:lol:
 
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