Assigning Responsibility

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Tesla takes heat after fatal crash causes fireball explosion

While I can try to understand a father's need to place blame for the loss of a child, if you crash your bosses car at 1am while drunk and speeding (and presumably giving him a handjob, though this is my own extrapolation of the description of events) and it catches fire... The car wasn't the object being unsafe.

So then, what do you think the intenet of this article is? I have my ideas (which I'll withhold for now), but I'm interested how other people read it. Especially being a conservative leaning population here, what does it say to you?
 
You fucked up, you take responsibility. It wasn't Tesla's fault. Shit, if they were in any other car they probably would have died anyway. Teslas are tanks.

If that was my kid I would be sad, but I would be like "he was drunk as shit, just glad he didn't kill any innocent kids/puppies/nuns while driving like a total asshat."
 
Her act of driving drunk doesn't negate the responsibility of the auto manufacturer to provide a safe vehicle regardless of the driver's condition.

This could have easily happened while driving at 3pm on your way home from picking up the kids at school and the results could be the same.



And BTW, the article doesn't say anything about speeding, acting like and asshat, or even hand jobs. In fact, it states the Tesla appears to have swerved to avoid another car that was traveling in the wrong direction. For all we know, they could have been traveling 5mph under and obeying all other laws other than intoxication. That in itself doesn't relieve the manufacturer of responsibility to provide a reasonably safe product
 
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Where is the guarantee of 100% safety when driving?
 
For me, it would come down to defining what 'safe' actually is to determine if the automaker has any fault. Gasoline powered vehicles explode/catch on fire too. So if 'explosions' are the metric being used, I'd want to see what the per capita is for gasoline powered vehicles is and the same for Tesla's, and any other vehicle using the same technology. Then I'd also want to see if there's any actual proof that the lithium batteries are more volatile in the event of an accident. But on the whole, I'd say nature ran it's course on a drunk driver. I have zero sympathy for drunk drivers, having been hit head on by one, someone willing to make a dumbass decision like that, thankfully cleansed the gene pool and didn't take an innocent party with them.
 
rockcity said:
Her act of driving drunk doesn't negate the responsibility of the auto manufacturer to provide a safe vehicle regardless of the driver's condition.

This could have easily happened while driving at 3pm on your way home from picking up the kids at school and the results could be the same.



And BTW, the article doesn't say anything about speeding, acting like and asshat, or even hand jobs. In fact, it states the Tesla appears to have swerved to avoid another car that was traveling in the wrong direction. For all we know, they could have been traveling 5mph under and obeying all other laws other than intoxication. That in itself doesn't relieve the manufacturer of responsibility to provide a reasonably safe product
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And witnesses to the Indianapolis crash told authorities the Model S was going well above the speed limit.
 
I agree with this:

In a 2013 blog post, CEO Musk also declared that, "For consumers concerned about fire risk, there should be absolutely zero doubt that it is safer to power a car with a battery than a large tank of highly flammable liquid."

Imagine if all the cars built up until now had been powered by batteries and someone came up with this cool new fuel called gasoline and wanted to put a tank full of it in every car. People would be scared to death!! They would say things like "It is a bomb waiting to go off!" or "what about a tanker truck full of fuel spilling all that gasoline all over the road and it draining into the creeks and rivers, etc...." or "The pollution from the tailpipes are going to kill everyone and all the plants and trees!" News outlets would be staging explosions of tanks of this cool new fuel called gasoline for a ratings boost and to scare the public.

It is all about perspective.
 
If it's all the same to you fellas, I'll just drive myself and if I can't I'll have me beer assistant drive me.
 
"The 27-year-old was driving her boss's Model S battery-electric vehicle about 1 a.m. on November 3, when they appear to have swerved to avoid a car driving in the wrong direction, crashing into a tree and then a parking garage in Indianapolis. The car almost immediately exploded. Speckman, who was found to have a blood-alcohol level of 0.21 percent — nearly triple Indiana's 0.08 percent limit — was killed by the crash, but 44 year-old Kevin McCarthy died as a result of the subsequent explosion and fire."

I would blame the other driver who was going in the wrong direction first. Daughter was killed by the crash and not the explosion, (per the article) and then there's the fact that her blood alcohol level was 0.21.
I know her dad is devastated but it was a bad decision to drive that drunk and the other driver started the chain of events that ended up killing her and the boss.
Terrible loss, sad story.
 
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