Finally got to the point to bend the .250 wall tube. I didnt want to mess up the bender, and I didnt have a torch, or mapp gas, but I had some charcoal. I used a 4'x4' sheet of 3/16ths, 4 cinder blocks, and some expanded metal. I used 2 blocks to raise the 3/16ths off the ground ( ididnt want to kill the grass), and used the other 2 to raise expanded metal above that. Put the charcoal on the expanded metal, lit it, and waited. It took about 45 min to get the tube cherry red, and it bent like butter.