Best Buy rant (long)

ManglerYJ

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So after saving for over a year now, we were finally able to order our flat screen TV's for the master bedroom and the master bathroom. We found 2 Black Friday deals, one at Walmart.com for a 22" LCD with a wall mount and one from Best Buy.com for a 42" plasma with wall mount. We ordered them both online so we wouldnt have to deal with lugging them through the stores on Black Friday, not to mention risking them being out of stock. We still went to both stores ON Black Friday, we just didn't want to mess with TV's that day so we could focus on smaller stuff.

Anyway, we ordered both TV's on November 23rd and were told that the Wal-Mart TV would arrive around December 3rd and the Best Buy one would be between December 1st and the 7th. Best Buy's website was messed up, so we had to order it by calling Customer Service.

We checked our bank account on November 28th and Best Buy still hadn't billed us. We called Customer Service to check and they assured us that because of Black Friday the system was overloaded and that it would go through once it cleared - give them a couple days to get it sorted out.

We called again on the 30th. Got the same answer, except that they said for sure it would be December 7th as they only deliver to Lexington every two weeks and the 7th was a Lexington Day. No problem.

Still nothing billed by December 4th, so we call again. After an hour and a half on and off hold talking to three different CSR's, we are escalated to someone in "Research". Ironically, because the TV was ordered under my name, this woman won't talk to my wife until I authorize it (even though she has been the one on teh phone each other time). After a few minutes, this gal realizes that when the initial order was placed, two numbers on our Debit card were transposed and the order was cancelled - contrary to what EVERY other CSR said AND DOCUMENTED ON THEIR SYSTEM. She read all the notes from all of the phone calls we placed in. She re-entered the order, but found that the mount we ordered was now out of stock with no future delivery date available. She has us select another mount and they shipped it to us free of charge.

Here's where it gets rough. She then figures out that the TV will in fact NOT be here by the 7th as promised and will arrive the next delivery date of the 21st. Not a major deal - it will still be here by Christmas. I could have picked it up in the store on the 19th, but I really didn't want to mess with it since they will deliver it on their truck and carry it into the house. To make up for it, she offers to credit $100 back on our card after the TV is delivered (since she can't alter the order when the order is open). Sounds fine.

December 21st arrives and so does the TV. They carry the TV in and head down the road. I unbox the TV, put it face down on the bed per the directions and connect the mount. I measure to drill the wall bracket up and get ready to hang it when I pull the opaque plastic off the front and discover the screen is CRACKED.

I call Customer Service who tells me that they can't issue a return until the truck driver gets back to the store with the manifest so they can enter it in as delivered. Call back later. When I call back later, they tell me that they will have to arrange for a pickup when they deliver the new one which may be another couple weeks. At this point, I tell them I will load it into my car and exchange it if they can find one at the store in either Winston or Greensboro. The system was down for them to locate one at that point so they tell me to call back later.

My wife calls back later and they tell her that the Winston store that it was delivered out of only had one in stock where the Greensboro store had 7. She told her on the off chance we went to Winston and someone else bought the last one, or IT was broken as well we would have to go to Greenboro anyway, so might as well start there. The Research CSR told my wife she would call the store and tell them what was going on.

I go to Greensboro and arrive a little after 8 pm on December 21st. I bring the receipt I printed online which has the order date of November 23rd on it, and the manifest copy that the truck driver gave me. I stand in line at Customer Service where there were about 4 people in line. I get up to second in line and the gal behind the counter asks if the box is opened. I tell her that it was delivered that morning and the screen is cracked. She tells me that since the box was opened, I'll have to wait in the Geek Squad line at the PC Tech bench. There are about 8 people in that line.

Get to the front and the guy tells me that to speed things up, just leave the TV and go get another one. No problem, I go back to the back and they pull one out of inventory in the back and I check it to make sure it wasn't broken. After I explained why I was so insitant on checking it, the inventory dude was happy to help me out.

I go back to the front where they tell me I now have to wait in line at Customer Service which now has about 10 people in it. Hey - I've waited almost a month for this TV, what's another 15 minutes? So, I get up to the front when she tells me that they need to call a manager to authorize the return. The manager comes up who obviously didn't know I was coming - because he asks me what kind of vehicle I took it home in. "I didn't take it home, you guys delivered it to my house like this."

So he asks why I didn't have them set it up for me. I didn't want to pay $80 for something that ended up taking me 10 minutes to do. He said that it is part of the delivery for them to set up the TV, plug it in and make sure it works. Never in all of the contact I've had with CSR's, or ANYWHERE on the website does it say this, nor did the delivery guys. Then, he tells me that because it came from the Winston store, I'll have to take it back there, since he didn't want to get stuck with a broken TV. This is the point that I just about lose it.

At this point, I am ready to get the gal from Research on the phone, when he tells me he will call to Winston and get an in-store transfer arranged. Even though I have my online receipt, they ended up having to do a "no-receipt" return and exchange. I finally rolled out of Best Buy with my new TV at around 9:30 pm. I was home at roughly 10:15 and watching TV at 10:30.

Now, to be fair, they did end up crediting our account with $200 and gave us the wall mount free, but even still we have spent over 10 hours on the phone and in person dealing with this TV.

Through this whole process, the only person who has been "customer service oriented", has been the gal in "Research", who wasn't originally supposed to be talking to us from what she said originally. She has written a rather long e-mail with all of the notes from our case and suggested we do the same. At this point, Best Buy has seen their last penny from us.
 
Similar incident with best buy, Just with a DVD. Had several e mails saying item was backordered, then an e mail saying if I didn't call order would be canceled. I called and they said they could convert the order to a in store pickup. After 35 minutes talking to a customer service rep, this was supposedly done. Wife went the next day to pick it up, store knew nothing about it, the store ended up just giving her the movie to get her out the store. Three days later, best buy sends another e mail cancelling the order. They supposedly are sending me a $10 gift card for their screw up. IF I get the card, I'll spend it in-store and will probably never grace best buy with another dime of my business. I predict this incident around Christmas will send them the way of Circuit City!
 
They could have told both of you to pound sand and get over it, they didn't. Customer Service around the Holidays is crazy ANYWHERE you could have gone, mistakes happen, they more than made up for the inconvenience IMO.

Mangler, you said it was a 42" Plasma, so it was probably $500ish, you got 40% refunded, what more do you expect?

TechnologyTeacher, you got the movie for free, and a gift card, nuff said.
 
It sounds like you and I are having a bit of the same luck lately. Everything I do seems to take at least three times as long as it should.

Install a motion sensor light on the corner of the house...The motion sensor module is broke. Thankfully I had another light by the same manufacturer and I was able to figure this out without thinking the whole light was bad. Call the company...They say they'll ship out a replacement. Replacement never arrives. Call the company again. They don't know why it didn't ship. Three weeks later I have light in my backyard again. Buying a new light fixture from Lowes and putting it up should take an hour and a half max (including driving to the store).

I've been trying to get a boat trailer registered for two months. Every person at the DMV seems to have a different set of rules depending on who you talk to. I had the supervisor at the Cary DMV write down exactly what I needed to do and when I brought the new paperwork to the Raleigh DMV they accepted it along with $60 of my cash. Then I get a letter in the mail a week later saying the paperwork I submitted is no good. I don't even want plates on it, but I do want it registered in my name so I can transfer it whenever I sell it.

First world problems :(
 
This is exactly why I hate buying anything online I can get in a store. There is way too much going on that I have to rely on others to do to make it worth the effrot or "savings".




screw ups happen. How they are fixed is what will seperate who stays in business and who doesn't...
 
Yea I dont think Best Buy is going under, but their customer service is garbage! I bout a used copy of Xboxs' Battlefield 3 for $49. A new copy was $59. On the box it showed there was an Xboxs points card that came with the game, which I assumed the person who bought the game had already used. No worries right.. Well pop the game in, go to play online. A popup comes up asking to redeem the code (which came originally with game) to play online. Otherwise I would have to purchase the points at $15. So I figured $50 for a used game is all Im spending. I take it back the next day. The CSR says they cant exchange games (I was going to get a different game). I told em I opened it and couldnt play it. They give some speech about how they arent allowed to exchange.. I told em it wasnt a new game, so they can package it the same as they do will all the other used ones they get in.... Finally she got a manager.. He tried to tell me the same thing. Finally I threw the game on the counter and said keep it. I just spent $300 here yesterday and you mean to tell me you cant return a $50 game for another game? ....They quickly changed their attitude and let me exchange as if it was no hassle...

I think they try to tell people whatever they can to get them out of the store. They have the worst customer service Ive seen so I dont know how they continue to get so much business!?

I went to apply there a few years back.. Apparently you have to take a compency test to get the job. I didnt get a call back.. Guess my college education wasnt enough to work there........(smh)
 
This is what happens with big chain companies that have thousands of employees, especially when they are competing against online sellers. People have the expectation of everything within the company, different store sites etc to operate as a single unit... but it's just not really possible - at least while being cost-competitive.
The problem is that you can't really take the time and expense to train everybody to really be knowledgeable about everything going on w/all sales, different types of situations that could occur, etc, and also deal with the massive #s of customers that have to be served.

Yes, you hit some incompetence, but as mentioned the did pretty well to compensate you for it. At least they offered that much.

What are the alternatives? You could buy the TV from a smaller "Mom & Pop" electronics store. They will be more knowledgable, take their time to fix the problem, and see it through. but they'll only be open 8-6, and cost more for the TV, and may or may not be able to do it online.

Or you could just order online, and hope you don't have to deal with a return or issue that requires you re-packaging and mailing it back.

FYI TVs get broken in shipment all the time. When mine was delivered, I asked the driver, he said probably 1 in 5 he sees are cracked (at least the bigger ones)
 
Best Buy is trash. Always have been, always will be. I refuse to even step foot in that store at any time during the year. They have nothing I cant get for cheaper from a store online and have it delivered (As most online places generally ship the larger orders for free anyways...).

When doing any electronic shopping, I always use Newegg. Built my computer through them, and had 0 problems.
 
i like best buy never had any problems with them. I took a pandigital tablet back cause it was trash, had it about a month it wasnt broke nothing to do with best buy it was a software issue, I didnt have the receipt or anything they let me exchange for a gift card for the 200 bucks i spent on the item and i bought a new nook and and still had money to blow
 
Plasma TV's are incredibly fragile, but yet usually very poorly packaged. This one was no exception. From the manufacturer, the TV is protected by nothing more than an opaque plastic/foam bag and two small pieces of stryrofoam in the corners. I was not suprised at all of the damage, really.

The funny thing is, I was really OK with the entire ordeal until the manager in Greensboro said that I'd have to take it back to Winston Salem so his store wouldn't have to take a hit on the return. At that point, I about hit the roof. How they deal with the TV after it's returned is not anything the customer needs to be aware of. The exchange should have been completely transparent and seamless. As was said by the Research CSR..."It doesn't matter if the TV was ordered online, by Customer Service, in Texas or Oregon... a Best Buy sale can be returned or exchanged at ANY Best Buy retailer."
 
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The box that mine came in looked pretty pristine. I wouldn't have accepted it if it didn't. Even the manager commented on how good the box looked considering how bad the screen was cracked. There was only a small crease in the front of the box where it looked like it touched something else.

That TV looks like it either was dropped off the loading dock, or someone used it to make a YouTube video slinging a Wii remote at it.
 
They could have told both of you to pound sand and get over it, they didn't. Customer Service around the Holidays is crazy ANYWHERE you could have gone, mistakes happen, they more than made up for the inconvenience IMO.

Mangler, you said it was a 42" Plasma, so it was probably $500ish, you got 40% refunded, what more do you expect?

TechnologyTeacher, you got the movie for free, and a gift card, nuff said.
Pretty much a polite version of what I was thinking.

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I see LARGE screen TV's at freight forwarders all the time, very often they are laying down on back or front, not on edge the way they are supposed to ship.

I've seen the trashed ones as well that never make it out of the loading dock.

Furniture, couches, chairs, dining room sets, all on a dock on pallets to small and only stretch wrapped. Scuffed, scratched, broken ( and still being delivered ) saw a leather couch with a fork hole in the end, still being delivered to customer.

Ain't no way I'm ordering anything to be delivered by truck freight if I can help it.
 

Oh yeah...

I wasn't going to bring this up but might as well.
On Black Friday, we ordered a DS game for our son from BB online, to be a Christmas present.
it was stated as "in stock" at the time.
Checked 2 days later, since order hadn't shipped... now stated as "out of stock, expected shipping Dec 5th".
OK, can deal with that.
5th came and went. Checked again, now "Ship date unavailable".

Well, Dec 23 - get an email from BB - "we've cancelled the order.. Sorry."
WTF? Yeah, that was supposed to be my son's Christmas present. Thanks for the 2 day warning, assholes.
Luckily, we'd already given up on it and had a back-up present in hand by then....
 
Here's my thinking on Best Buy's inventory: Best Buy has to start thinking of itself as an online marketer with thousands of mini-warehouses accross the country instead of thousands of Big Box stores with an online marketing component if they want to stay in business in the new marketplace.

I guarentee that SOMEWHERE in one of the Best Buy stores accross the country, that game is in stock. They've had what, a month to find one in a store, since all of the store's inventory screens can be seen by Customer Service. It's just a matter of locating the game and contacting the inventory manager of that store to pull it from the shelf and do an inventory transfer to the central warehouse or drop ship it from the location. Fedex and UPS make the process very simple.

At each store, there are at least 5-6 management level employees that should be capable of such a transaction.
 
That sucks Matt..but at least it ended well sorta...lol I don't usually shop at Best Buy either, but knock on wood, I've had some pretty good success with the HHGregg in Concord. We've bought a couple of TV's, washer and dryer, and a refrigerator from them without an issue.
 
Here's my thinking on Best Buy's inventory: Best Buy has to start thinking of itself as an online marketer with thousands of mini-warehouses accross the country instead of thousands of Big Box stores with an online marketing component if they want to stay in business in the new marketplace.

They need to hire you. :lol:

Funny thing is.... I needed trailer brake magnets from Agrisupply a few months ago. They've only got six or eight stores, but that's pretty much exactly how they work. I ordered the magnets online and they shipped from whatever store had them in stock.
 
The same day that the TV showed up busted, our clothes dryer quit as well. (talk about a crap-ass day!). Now being a stay-at-home dad, the appliances at our house are now paramount importance.

My wife was on the other side of town, so she stopped in at the Sears appliance store to check the price of a new one. Because of the size of our family ( husband and wife, a 20 year old, a 16 year old, a 6 year old, 3 year old and a 2 year old), we run the dryer a LOT. Typically at least 2-3 loads per day. The cheapest one they had that would suit us was over $800. The Sears salesman said that because of our level of "abuse", the warranty even on the best ones would be void. She left and went to a local place called Morgans. They sold her a commercial dryer made by Speed Queen that has a 3 year warranty that he practically dared us to abuse. He delivered it within 15 minutes with only the promise of $400 cash on delivery with the balance ($130)to be paid by the end of the week.

We had forgotten that we bought the Speed Queen commercial washing machine 3 years ago from them. It has never had so much as a hiccup. The guy who delivered the dryer pointed it out and had remembered when he delivered it as well. They will now be getting our business from now on for any appliance or TV. Even if I pay more, the money stays local and they have had the best customer service we've seen.
 
They need to hire you. :lol:

They did.... I used to work at Best Buy in Novi, MI from 1998-1999. I was an in-home PC Tech before they created the "Geek Squad". I had a dispute with the General Manager who was insisting that even PC Tech's work the sales floor and that EVERY computer and laptop be sold with a battery backup bundled with it. My contention is that a laptop IS a battery backup, but he wouldn't budge. He made life miserable for me and eventually, when I wanted to only work Occasional/Seasonal, I was let go for no apparant reason.
 
Here's my thinking on Best Buy's inventory: Best Buy has to start thinking of itself as an online marketer with thousands of mini-warehouses accross the country instead of thousands of Big Box stores with an online marketing component if they want to stay in business in the new marketplace.

Seems like Sears had this figured out 100 years ago...
 
Seems like Sears had this figured out 100 years ago...

Problem is that Sears never changed their business model. They are still focused on print media which is impossible to keep up with technology. Hard to sell the latest HDTV out of a semi-annual catalog or even a weekly circular. By the time the printing press sees the material, something newer has already come out. Sears has, however, abandoned a LOT of what made them big in the first place. I've heard about a lot of problems with Craftsman hand tools that are made overseas not being up to the quality standards that their former components were. I've heard of a lot of hassles with returns on torque wrenchs too.

I don't buy a lot from Sears anymore simply due to my proximity to Lowes now. I used to be a BIG Craftsman tool guy and I still have some of my original Craftsman tools that I got when I was 16. I've lost more of them than I've broken.
 
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