biobutanol

Been around a long time. Cost of production killed it in the beginning. I think now cheaper than gas to produce. Same energy as gas.
 
Just in case anyone pretends we are a capitalist society:
The fuel can help oil refiners, because biobutanol generates more renewable identification number credits, or RINs, under the EPA’s Renewable Fuel Standard program since it is considered an advanced biofuel, he said.
The bigger credit would help smaller, independent oil refiners meet the fuel mandate, because they must buy the credits to comply with the RFS since they don't have the infrastructure to blend biofuels.
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Big Corn (aka farm lobby) will make sure this doesn't happen unless they can benefit from it somehow.
 
awheelterd said:
Still uses corn. :poop:

I'm not a fan of using food stocks as fuel.
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Ethanol doesn't use food corn. There is sweet corn and field corn. Sweet corn is what we eat. This is about 1% of the total corn crop. The other 99% is field corn which goes into animal feed and other industrial uses. It also doesn't drive up the price any appreciable amount. The majority of food costs are driven by transportation and marketing. Weather and global economic policies also play a big role.

There are a lot of myths and untruths around ethanol. I'm not saying its a super fuel and the savior of humanity, nothing is. But it isn't the demon fuel its made out to be. There is a lot of politics around the gasoline vs ethanol debate.
 
livetorun said:
Ethanol doesn't use food corn. There is sweet corn and field corn. Sweet corn is what we eat. This is about 1% of the total corn crop. The other 99% is field corn which goes into animal feed and other industrial uses. It also doesn't drive up the price any appreciable amount. The majority of food costs are driven by transportation and marketing. Weather and global economic policies also play a big role.

There are a lot of myths and untruths around ethanol. I'm not saying its a super fuel and the savior of humanity, nothing is. But it isn't the demon fuel its made out to be. There is a lot of politics around the gasoline vs ethanol debate.
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I buy a lot of corn, and I mean A LOT of corn. Ethanol directly influences corn prices. When they first started mandating ethanol blends it drove the price up to $8 and $9 per bushel. It hit us pretty hard. Corn for animal feed IS food. Corn prices go up, animal prices go up. Now that ethanol is being allowed to stand on its own a little more the prices are better.
 
There is a bigger picture to take into effect with corn. The “grain belt” has shifted and narrowed in the last 100 years by up to 100 miles in some places . Meaning 100s possibly 1000s of square miles are no longer as fertile for the corn crops with out major watering efforts..... leading to more water shortages.


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