Building Materials Thread

Fabrik8 said:
So it looks like the Boral trim is just barely more than twice the cost of Miratec. Soooo Miratec it is for the window trim and fascia boards.

The siding cost is.... ....a lot more than Hardie or Nichiha.
7.25inch bevel is roughly 3X the cost of Hardie/LP/Nichiha, but at least it's a true bevel and not a flat plank. So the Boral is pretty much equal to cypress in cost, and with the same bevel profile. So really a drop-in replacement for traditional wood profiles.

Sucks, because I got some Boral trim and siding samples today, and the stuff seems far higher quality than Hardie. Just not affordable for me.
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Only 20 year warranty on the Boral. You would figure for 3x the money the warranty would be at least as long as the others.

If you're gonna do the rain screen, then another $5 - 6,000 for siding won't hurt you :D.
 
ramjo said:
Only 20 year warranty on the Boral. You would figure for 3x the money the warranty would be at least as long as the others.

If you're gonna do the rain screen, then another $5 - 6,000 for siding won't hurt you :D.
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I'm not sure I care too much about the warranty, after hearing about how Hardie blames everything on the installer and refuses to actually make good on warranty claims. Those are just the ones in the public eye, obviously.

I think a rainscreen for that stuff would be the 3D drainage housewrap mat. No furring strips required, and pretty cheap and easy to install because it's just an open-mesh mat. I think I'm going to do that if I do any kind of fiber cement lap/bevel, shiplap, etc. It just seems to make sense to put a drainage plane behind fiber cement to prevent problems, at least from what I've been hearing. The Boral specifically recommends that in their installation instructions as a best practice for siding install.

Of the common players, I'm still leaning toward LP.

Maybe the Artisan V-groove (shiplap) Hardie, but that just takes all of thing things I don't like about that material and makes it look really pretty. And also gets rid of the cost attractiveness.
 
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If you're going to have open joints, the WRB has to be UV stable.

And that shit's expensive.
 
shawn said:
If you're going to have open joints, the WRB has to be UV stable.

And that shit's expensive.
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Just over a $1/sqft (plus detail flashing) for something like Vaproshield SA, not too bad. SA stands for "self adhering", which sounds like it could either be the best thing ever or a complete train-wreck to install.

But yes, it's not cheap. I have samples, it's really cool and super tough, possibly fiber reinforced. It's not unlike our crawlspace encapsulation membrane, but softer and more flexible. And black.

The big money option is an open joint material, so we're probably not going to do that because of the material cost and rainscreen system details. Much cheaper to do a drainage mat behind a more traditional type of siding, that's for sure.
 
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Fabrik8 said:
Just over a $1/sqft (plus detail flashing) for something like Vaproshield SA, not too bad. SA stands for "self adhering", which sounds like it could either be the best thing ever or a complete train-wreck to install.

But yes, it's not cheap. I have samples, it's really cool and super tough, possibly fiber reinforced. It's not unlike our crawlspace encapsulation membrane, but softer and more flexible. And black.

The big money option is an open joint material, so we're probably not going to do that because of the material cost and rainscreen system details. Much cheaper to do a drainage mat behind a more traditional type of siding, that's for sure.
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Vaproshield is about 10x the cost of Tyvek. But it's what I'd spec for an open joint system. Anything else gets a WR Grace (or wtfever they're called today) fluid-applied WRB.
 
Fabrik8 said:
Anyone have any insight on the Canadian lumber tariff?
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No insights here. BroncosbyBart was right though....OSB is up about $4 a sheet from the last time I bought any, and I'm sure lumber is too.


That's why the bed of my truck looks like this on jobsite clean up day. I love "Green" builders that throw away good stuff :D.



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Anyone got an recommendations on composite decking brand? Fiberon any good?
 
Azek is my composite of choice over Trex and Fiberon.
If you want the best decking IMO, ipe is terrific if you can justify the up front cost.
 
Jody Treadway said:
Azek is my composite of choice over Trex and Fiberon.
If you want the best decking IMO, ipe is terrific if you can justify the up front cost.
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Do you sell composite? If so do you want to give me a quote?

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I machined some mounting blocks for exterior lights out of 5/4 Miratec over the weekend, some routing and normal cutting.. That stuff is awesome to work with, it's like exterior grade MDF. Sands and takes primer well too. I managed to get a 6 foot cull piece of 12" so I didn't have to buy a 16 foot stick just to have wide stock for the bigger blocks for the wall cap that are next..

The zinc borate in it made me extra cautious about wearing a dust mask though. Haven't looked it up, but it sounds like something I don't want to breathe while cutting.
 
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Picked up 4 bags of Johns Manville R-15 (2x4) mineral wool insulation for $10 each at HD, normally $40 each. Someone apparently ordered a pallet of it and returned it, along with a pallet of some expensive fiberglass for sound deadening.
The entire pallet of fiberglass disappeared between yesterday and today (also $10, normally $40, very expensive fiberglass), but no one touched any of the mineral wool. I still haven't figured that one out.

I would have walked away with the entire pallet of mineral wool (12 bags maybe?), but my house is all 2x6 walls instead of 2x4. I have a small project for the packs I bought, but I have no use for the rest of it. I would be a lot happier if someone returned a pallet of R-23 for 2x6 walls.

If anyone needs packs of R-15 mineral wool for 2x4 walls, $10 each at Cornelius Home Depot. Probably 8-10 packs left, and they're not exactly selling fast.
 
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