Burning Jeeps!

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Chris
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Video in link. http://www.wcnc.com/home/Jeep-fire-not-a-one-time-thing-144248475.html

INDIAN TRAIL, N.C. -- A new Jeep Wrangler Rubicon burned suddenly and without warning in Indian Trail where Rob Pyrock and his passenger say they were lucky to get out, and hundreds of miles away there's a similar story.
On March 12in Ann Arbor, Michigan, there was another similar Jeep fire with another lucky driver named Sean Heiney. He talked to NewsChannel 36 on Skype about the sudden loss of his brakes, steering and then the fire.
“I actually left the moving vehicle, which was completely engulfed in flames by the time I got out of it,” Heiney said.

Like Pyrock in Indian Trail, Heiney began to investigate and called Chrysler to report the problem but says he was told “we’ll call you.”

"To have someone call you back in a few days when you just left a burning stocked warrantied car, and so I was frustrated and started doing research and found out I wasn’t alone," Heiney said.
To get Chrysler’s attention, Heiney says he created a video of his Jeep fire and others. He set it to music and sent it to Chrysler, telling them they could watch it on YouTube.

“Monday morning, Chrysler legal called me and started throwing out offers,” Heiney said.
Heiney says Chrysler offered to buy his Jeep back and reimburse him for everything he spent. The cause of Heiney ’s sudden fire had been ruled “inconclusive,” and as part of the deal, he says, they wanted him to sign a non-disclosure--basically requiring him to say nothing.

“I’m not going to take that. I can’t sleep at night if I know that some other Jeep owner was in a car that caught fire and some dramatic damage happened to them or their family," Heiney said. "I wouldn’t be able to live with myself, so I am trying to make this as public as possible.”
In an email, Chrysler told NewsChannel 36, “It is quite normal for customers to be required to sign a release in these matters in order to keep the settlement terms confidential. This was particularly important in a case with an inconclusive event investigation.”

Chrysler also denies Heiney's version of how the offer for settlement came about saying, "Our timely investigation and reasonable offer of settlement was the result of a good Company responding to a customer issue and request. Chrysler Group takes all vehicle fires very seriously and investigates them in a thorough and timely manner. Actually, Mr. Heiney had been demanding that we resolve the matter in that tight timeframe. Any connection is a product of his own imagination."
No dice, no deal, no new car--for now. What Heiney says he wants is for Chrysler to admit there might be a serious problem that causes sudden fires.
As for Pyrock ’s fire in North Carolina, Chrysler says it was grass wedged underneath in the back near the gas tank from off-roading and poor maintenance, even though the video clearly shows the fire burning and re-igniting in the front. Chrysler says the operating manual says after going off roading, it is always a good idea to check for damage.

Chrysler told NewsChannel 36 that car fires are complex issues. We asked them if they have any specific plans to address this issue, and they said no. In a statement, Chrysler said, “We monitor the day-to-day safety performance of our products as a normal course of business, and we are in active discussions with regulators.”
NewsChannel 36 also contacted the National Highway of Transportation Service Administration with USDOT which investigates automotive defects and dangers.

A spokesperson there wrote, “We’re monitoring the issue closely and will take appropriate action as necessary.”
A Chrysler spokesperson says 131,000 Jeeps were sold in the U.S. last year. On safercar.gov NewsChannel 36 found nine complaints about sudden fires.
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A friend of mine had a late model TJ with around 30k on it, burnt to the ground after he just drove it 8miles to a fishing spot, strange, sad day.
 
A friend of mine had a late model TJ with around 30k on it, burnt to the ground after he just drove it 8miles to a fishing spot, strange, sad day.
 
I haven't paid attention to the late model stuff, but quite a few of the junkyards I used to frequent all had a row of ZJ's with burnt engine compartments.
 
I thought this as already addressed when the 4 doors came out. The trans over flowed out the vent hose and on to the cat producing the fire? I'm pretty sure I saw several stories about that...


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Geez, at least Samurais just fall over!

Matt
 
NHTSA Action Number: 09V436000
09V436000
09V436000 NHTSA Recall Campaign Number:
PE09037 09V436000
Make: JEEP Model: WRANGLER 4-DR 4X4
Manufacturer : CHRYSLER GROUP LLC
Model Year : 2007
Component(s) :
POWER TRAIN
POWER TRAIN:MANUAL TRANSMISSION
POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION

Date Investigation Opened : August 12, 2009
Date Investigation Closed : November 17, 2009
Summary:
IN A LETTER DATED NOVEMBER 3, 2009, CHRYSLER GROUP LLC (CHRYSLER), NOTIFIED NHTSA THAT IT WILL CONDUCT A SAFETY RECALL OF APPROXIMATELY 161,000 MODEL YEAR (MY) 2007 AND 2008 JEEP WRANGLER VEHICLES BUILT WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS. CHRYSLER STATED THAT "THESE VEHICLES WERE NOT EQUIPPED WITH A TRANSMISSION FLUID TEMPERATURE WARNING SYSTEM AND THE OPERATION OF THESE VEHICLES BEYOND THE LIMITS OF REASONABLE USAGE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME COULD RESULT IN TRANSMISSION FAILURE AND IN SOME CASES TRANSMISSION FLUID EXPULSION." THE EXPELLED FLUID COULD COME IN CONTACT WITH A HOT ENGINE OR EXHAUST COMPONENT AND CAUSE A FIRE. CHRYSLER WILL CONDUCT A SAFETY RECALL TO INSTALL A "HOT OIL" WARNING MESSAGE IN THE INSTRUMENT CLUSTER AND A CHIME INDICATING AN ELEVATED TRANSMISSION FLUID TEMPERATURE CONDITION. AN OWNER'S MANUAL ADDENDUM STATING THE PURPOSE OF THE "HOT OIL" MESSAGE AND CHIME TO INCLUDE CAUTION AND WARNING STATEMENTS REGARDING ELEVATED TRANSMISSION FLUID TEMPERATURE CONDITIONS WILL BE PROVIDED TO OWNERS. BASED ON CHRYSLER'S DECISION TO CONDUCT A SAFETY RECALL THIS ENGINEERING ANALYSIS IS CLOSED.
 
dman4486 said:
NHTSA Action Number: 09V436000
09V436000
09V436000 NHTSA Recall Campaign Number:
PE09037 09V436000
Make: JEEP Model: WRANGLER 4-DR 4X4
Manufacturer : CHRYSLER GROUP LLC
Model Year : 2007
Component(s) :
POWER TRAIN
POWER TRAIN:MANUAL TRANSMISSION
POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION

Date Investigation Opened : August 12, 2009
Date Investigation Closed : November 17, 2009
Summary:
IN A LETTER DATED NOVEMBER 3, 2009, CHRYSLER GROUP LLC (CHRYSLER), NOTIFIED NHTSA THAT IT WILL CONDUCT A SAFETY RECALL OF APPROXIMATELY 161,000 MODEL YEAR (MY) 2007 AND 2008 JEEP WRANGLER VEHICLES BUILT WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS. CHRYSLER STATED THAT "THESE VEHICLES WERE NOT EQUIPPED WITH A TRANSMISSION FLUID TEMPERATURE WARNING SYSTEM AND THE OPERATION OF THESE VEHICLES BEYOND THE LIMITS OF REASONABLE USAGE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME COULD RESULT IN TRANSMISSION FAILURE AND IN SOME CASES TRANSMISSION FLUID EXPULSION." THE EXPELLED FLUID COULD COME IN CONTACT WITH A HOT ENGINE OR EXHAUST COMPONENT AND CAUSE A FIRE. CHRYSLER WILL CONDUCT A SAFETY RECALL TO INSTALL A "HOT OIL" WARNING MESSAGE IN THE INSTRUMENT CLUSTER AND A CHIME INDICATING AN ELEVATED TRANSMISSION FLUID TEMPERATURE CONDITION. AN OWNER'S MANUAL ADDENDUM STATING THE PURPOSE OF THE "HOT OIL" MESSAGE AND CHIME TO INCLUDE CAUTION AND WARNING STATEMENTS REGARDING ELEVATED TRANSMISSION FLUID TEMPERATURE CONDITIONS WILL BE PROVIDED TO OWNERS. BASED ON CHRYSLER'S DECISION TO CONDUCT A SAFETY RECALL THIS ENGINEERING ANALYSIS IS CLOSED.
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yeah I thought this was old news. Some where there was a picture of a jeep completely burnt sitting in a gas station parking lot. You couldn't tell if it had any aftermarket parts or was ever taken off road, hell you could hardly tell it was a jeep.


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The OP says it was a "new" Rubicon. The NHTSA report says it was 07 & 08 models. This might be something different...
 
I used to make power steering hoses. those things turn into flame throwers when they develop a pinhole leak. believe me, the QC guys know what happened, they spoke with the Engineers, who know how to properly fix it and and are hoping that the 'fix' gets them by until somebody dies, because true field campaign fixes are a BITCH to finance. all about the dolla dolla billz y'all.
 
The owner of the Redskins was transporting his wife and kids to a game in a new Range Rover and a the spring clamps on the heater hoses were weak and it dripped coolant on the exhaust manifold while sitting in traffic when it burst in to flames about 15 years ago .When I worked a Land Rover in DC it was towed to our shop
 
What burned on Daniel a couple weeks ago?
 
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