Callalantee Map

Trail ratings are subjective and therefore not worth a whole lot. I just finished riding some trails out west that I was told I couldn't do in a stock vehilce because of their rating. Did them anyway :) Callalantee has some good, read hard, areas to ride. Not like Tellico or Harlan but worth a trip.
 
What I like about what I have ridden so far, is about all the big obstacles or "Play areas" can be gone around by the more stock stuff. But I havent touched too much yet! Guess thats why I need some help here!

For instance, Welder...you can spend several hours going up it if ya try all the sub trails. The waterfall, Easy Out, the Loop. And then a nice mild trail drive down Blue!

We went past Little Tellico and Pull cable, coming down Orange, in the Dark the last trip, so didnt event get a good look at it!

For instance, some folks with us last trip are runnin stock stuff (CJ7 and a Cherokee) with, 2.5" lifts, 31" low buck mudders and no lockers. They made welder and the Loop with minor body damage (Big rock in middle of trail! LOL). And The Cherokee made the big hillclimb at the trail head at the bottom of Blue.

I made the Hillclimb this time, but me nor well modded Cherokee could during the SWFDA, cuz it was a still little damp at the slick rock spot. Seems when it rained last, in itself, will change trail ratings!!

Yes, the big buggies will mostly need to find specific areas for the challenges, but about any slightly modified 4WD could have a fine day there.

Any help there?
 
Here is the work so far:
Download callalantee_map2.jpg

This is essentially a redraw of LomodYJ and Alan A's GPS Map. I have removed the Yellow background, added larger trail lables, (Cuz Im old and cant see), added some things I have found on other maps and some stuff I realized while there myself.

I still need clarification of a couple of areas and I think some basic Trail ratings would be nice.

There is no guessing or any crayon drawing on our maps. Only GPS markings. If it's not on the map, we ain't run it yet. Call NORAD or NEXRAD or whatever Military agency is in charge of the GPS satellites if you think our positioning of Pull Cable and Little Tellico are off.

I dont doubt the veracity of GPS mapping. I have done GPS mapping also. But there is obviously a differing of labeling on two different maps. I am only trying to clarify some things, so this community map can be as accurate and as readable as possible. Thats why I started this thread.

I cant do it alone because I havent covered the entire area, and I dont have the benefit of a Government "land use map", or a Satellite map to work from.

Would also be neat to have a sheet of the coordinates and elevation of each of the waypoints on this map too!

Scott
 
Well, I don't have a buggy but i'm a little more than just slightly modified.

what would a group on 42s, lockers, doublers and a disregard for damage get into? I'm just trying to plan a trip and want to make sure it'll be worth the drive. my budget's tight and I want to get the most bang for the buck while also trying to try new areas.
 
Well, what would a group on 42s, lockers, doublers and a disregard for damage get into?

You should be able to attempt everything at Callalantee, course you might not make it :)

On the Welder trail, the waterfall is a nice 7 foot ledge with water coming over it. A hole is eaten out on the right side and presents a flop possibility, hug the tree at the top left. The Step is also eroding nicely and is much harder than in the past, especially when wet. Easy Out, is still maturing as a new section. The lower part has some good sized rocks and leads to a flat slickrock area then up to a step out. Several lines are available here from mild to wild, make it easy on yourself. The Loop looks good from the bottom entrance but is really not
much of a trail but it is steep coming back down! The Rut is easy after the first step up, if there's no traffic and you want to loop welder come back down this way. Take all the left lines after The Loop to the top for the best challenge.

Off the Orange trail, Armor All can be tough in a couple of places, enters left into the creek after you come off the Green trail. This trail used to be much longer before it was "closed" due to silt run off and there are some really good areas that need to be re-cleared. The exit can be quite a challenge when wet and brings you out at the entrance to Little Tellico and Big Tellico/Pull Cable.
Little Tellico also used to be much longer but logging operations closed a good portion of the trail and altered it's character. It's still a nice option for lesser built rigs and is a nice way to get on or off of Big Tellico/Pull Cable in case you can't make the entrance or need to get off of it because of breakage.
Big Tellico/Pull Cable is probably the hardest section at Callalantee. A short, 200 yard section, moderate up hill incline, with boulders large enough to stay in place for the most part. The entrance can present a challenge with the left line being the easiest. A good spotter can make this trail section look easier than it really is, a bad spotter or no spotter can make it really difficult. There a a couple of exits/entrances onto Little Tellico, one half way up and one close to the top. A little work at the top with chain saws to clear logging debris would open several more exit lines, some of which could be quite tough.

The Yellow Rock Garden can be a little difficult to find but also has some tough challenges and offers the possibility of more trail with a little work. The left side is toughest with lots of loose rock at the base of a large step, 4' or so. Additional clearing would open up some other, possibly tougher, lines on this side. The right side is doable by most rigs willing to work it a little and has undergone a change since it was opened from challenging to easier to harder now that it has eroded some. Both sides meet at the top and lead to a very steep descent back to the bottom.

The A.O.R.C. Rocks area is the fartherest from camp. It is not finished, i.e. there is no exit at the top and I'm not sure anyone has ever made it to the top. It is a steep, loose rock area that would require some wheel speed to ascend with the very real chance of cutting a tire as the rocks are quite sharp. This section needs work. It could connect to an old logging road at the top which would exit back to the trail system but no one has taken the initiative to finish it and I think this says a lot about the risk/reward factor of this section.

The rest of the trail system is similar to what you find at any logging site. Lots of Forest Service type gravel roads, many trails that are very steep which can be tough when wet, lots of stream crossings, and lots of possibilities for new sections with a little clearing.

I've been riding Callalantee for about 10 years, since it was a horse camp and CTB rode the trails for Mr. Brown to keep them clear for the horse riders. It has gotten better and better each year and still has potential for growth. Not one of the best venues in the south but definately worth a trip a couple of times a year. The bath house can be filthy at times, is marginal at it's best. The camp sites are also marginal with lots of gravel, dust and the ever present ATV's flying around at all hours. Avoid summer if possible. The best rides are mid winter when the crowds are down and the leaves are off the trees allowing views from Skyline Drive. $11 to ride daily, $10 to camp, honor system box at the entrance cabin if no one is there, which is most of the time.
 
Off the Orange trail, Armor All can be tough in a couple of places, enters left into the creek after you come off the Green trail. This trail used to be much longer before it was "closed" due to silt run off and there are some really good areas that need to be re-cleared. The exit can be quite a challenge when wet and brings you out at the entrance to Little Tellico and Big Tellico/Pull Cable.

All good info, but this. Mr. Brown has asked that ALL of Armor All be left alone...hence the trees dropped across the trail right at the Green/Orange split. The riding in the creek is causing a great deal of silt run off. The neighbors down the stream complained to the EPA...Mr. Brown got away with it once...Let's not push our luck a second time.
 
it wouldnt let me....but my computers firewall or popup or something might have shot it down
my work computer is set up not to allow ANY downloads...is there somewhere you can just post the image for viewing? I can copy images from the net, but not formally download anything...
 
All good info, but this. Mr. Brown has asked that ALL of Armor All be left alone...hence the trees dropped across the trail right at the Green/Orange split. The riding in the creek is causing a great deal of silt run off. The neighbors down the stream complained to the EPA...Mr. Brown got away with it once...Let's not push our luck a second time.

That was my understanding as well and I agree that we shouldn't give the EPA any reason to come back for a re-check, however, there are no trees across the entrance now, been that way since Feb 07 at least. There are still trees down about 100 yds up the trail just past the Little Tellico entrance off of the orange trail. Next time I see Mr. Brown I'll ask about it but I think it's a moot point as I think Callalantee will not be around too much longer. Mr. Brown is getting on in years, his health isn't the best and when he passes the kids will sell the property ASAP to a developer, at least that's what I see happening.
 
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