cb antenna question

redneckjeep87

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So my fiberglass antennas are mounted to aluminum mounts which are bolted to an aluminum toolbox and then aluminum bedrails in between that and the actual bedrail. The question is do i need to run some sort of ground to my antennae? Also am i helping or hurting running two antennae, i have heard both ways. I had both hooked up with a splitter then was told it wasnt doing anything but hurting my reception so i unhooked one of them. Now i swear my reception is worse. My setup was a cobra 19(mini) running good coax to a splitter with good coax run to the antennae. I have all the excess coax wrapped up and ziptied up out of the way, is that hurting anything? I just got a galaxy dh 88xl (read badass high powered ol school cb) and want to make sure my setup is up to par. I think my fiberglass whips are 4 ft long.
 
To be effective the 2 antennae need to be something like 110 inches apart. Make sure your extra coax is NOT in a loop but and oval. Check out this page.
http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs.htm
 
To be effective the 2 antennae need to be something like 110 inches apart. Make sure your extra coax is NOT in a loop but and oval. Check out this page.
http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs.htm
your close. it typically is 102 inches is the minimun to keep the antennae from cancelling each other out. i have run both single and dual antennae and have found that a single is better for me. i also have found that with any cobra radio, the ideal fiberglass choice is a "francis" antennae. they are cheaper than anything else and work great on cobras. metal whip antennae are always better though. make sure the co-ax is in increments of 3ft and check your standing wave to make sure it is 1.5 or lower for best reception and modulation.
 
There's way too much bad info out there about CB antennas. I don't pretend to know the right answer, but I can say with fairly high certainty that: an antenna is a two-part system. The antenna itself, and the reference plane (ie, your car). If you've got a 4' whip mounted to the back bumper of your Expedition, it's not going to work very well, because the body of the vehicle is going to block the antenna from radiating forward of the vehicle. The antenna is going to work better the higher it is off the ground, the more of it that is clear of the body, and the closer it is to the center of the vehicle. That will help ensure that the radiation pattern is even.

Co-phased antennas can help fix bad radiation problems... but they're a matched pair, so this one is easier to screw up than not.

Most of the "rules of thumb" about cutting your coax to a specific length are bunk. For one thing, the effective wavelength of the coax is affected by the type of coax. RG-6 and RG-59 would have to be cut to different lengths in order to both be 1/4 wave, for example. And it can be affected by damaged cable (kinks and bends), etc.

Get a good antenna. Top loaded or center loaded will generally be a better radiator than bottom loaded (a bottom loaded antenna mounted on your hood has most all of the effective length of the antenna mounted at the hood line). Getting it mounted near the center of the vehicle will help ensure that the radiation pattern is even. And checking the SWR and altering the antenna length accordingly will ensure you're getting the best results out of the equipment you have.

Oh, and yeah... it's better if you ground the antenna mount to the body. It can ground itself back through the coax, through the radio, etc... or even through the mount, the toolbox, through the shiny bare-metal spot the toolbox hold-down rubbed on the bed, etc.... but you're guaranteed a good connection if you run a ground wire from the mount directly to the body.
 
18 feet. no loops. no splitter. Take it from someone running "old school" galaxies in 3 vehicles that will talk from SC to IL upon command. PS aluminum is a fine ground, no need for any extra. The best antenna is a $19 steel whip from radio shack, but one fiberglass will do on the trail and not bang around on everything.
 
FWIW, To run cophased antennas, you should be using a coax harness with 75 ohm impedance cable to each antenna. Normal single antenna systems would use a 50 ohm cable. Using a "splitter" with 50 ohm cable to each antenna will not work very well. If you are using 75 ohm cable with your splitter set up, unhooking one antenna will also give problems.
 
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