Change is in the wind

Im not buying stock, yet...

But there is certainly a trend towards more electrical input and demand.
 
I've heard this could be happening in the heavy trucks too. The vehicle and engine ECUs do everything except scratch your balls. Also, the rest of the world is at 24volts.
 
42V will be a reality for most new vehicles in a few years. I for one welcome it, being a guy that works on generation and distribution electrical equipment. The higher the voltage, the smaller the conductor to power the same load. Make vehicles lighter from smaller wires, less expensive since copper is going through the roof on price, and inductive heating is lower since the current passed is lower. Higher voltage makes for more starting torque, so motorized things like winches, pumps, and regulators have more force to operate anything, potentially leading to fewer motor failures.

Bring it on, and hurry the hell up.
 
Yup been in the works for some time..

14*3 = 42

We have been limited for YEARs with the options and upgrades in cars due to the low voltages avaliable.. You will see many new crazy power, automation type features with the new voltage levels.. Full electric motor based steering, more/better suspension assist. Accident avoidance crap, yaw control etc..
 
I'm all for it... Wouldn't it be nice to wire up a winch with 8 gauge?

The only downside i see is longevity of the wiring. Not because of the voltage (Since all the wiring I see is rated for 600v), but since the OEM's will use thinner wiring, it'll be more easily kinked, or broken inside, while the insulation would look fine.. making troubleshooting a PITA without that tone generating tool.
 
Rich said:
making troubleshooting a PITA without that tone generating tool.
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I bought one of these not too long ago...it's the best money I've ever spent on a shop tool. I tracked down a short in an 03' S class benz in about 5 minutes, after the dealership had taken 3 weeks trying to find the same problem, charged the guy $75 and had a customer for life.
 
So if I'm already at 24V, does that mean I'm a trendsetter?

I'm all for the higher voltage, except that I don't want any more electrical gear in my truck than I already have. I'd appreciate more umph for the starter, but don't need the in dash microwave or other future electrical gremlin generator.
 
Bildo said:
I thought they kept it under 30v for safety reasons, figuring it takes 30v to through the skin.
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Nah, I regularly handle 36v and 48v lift trucks. while pretty safe in general, there are times things can get "exciting"

A stuck contactor (relay) can heat things up or create quite a fireworks show if you aren't careful.

I've been told that part of the SOP for working on the batteries of hybrid vehicles is to have a second person on standby to knock the first away if there should be a some sort of "voltage" induced incident. Dunno how true this is.
 
let me get this straigt, SOP one guy ready to smack the 2nd with a broom if he gets zapped..

i can see it now...

<WHAM>

HEY!! What did you hit me for... ?? !!!

I thought you were getting zapped, I just saved your life, you should be thanking me !!
 
yager said:
let me get this straigt, SOP one guy ready to smack the 2nd with a broom if he gets zapped..
i can see it now...
<WHAM>
HEY!! What did you hit me for... ?? !!!
I thought you were getting zapped, I just saved your life, you should be thanking me !!
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As stated, dunno how true or accurate, it is, but yeah, thats pretty much the jist of it. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
I can attest that that is 100% accurate on Hv projects in nuke environemnts.

Anything over 600v (I think it was a 1 day class that lasted 12 hours to get a certification to add 3 friggin receptiocles and make $2500 5 years ago) required a locked in guard with an insulated non-conductive separation tool (2x4)
 
Blkvoodoo said:
Nah, I regularly handle 36v and 48v lift trucks. while pretty safe in general, there are times things can get "exciting"
A stuck contactor (relay) can heat things up or create quite a fireworks show if you aren't careful.
I've been told that part of the SOP for working on the batteries of hybrid vehicles is to have a second person on standby to knock the first away if there should be a some sort of "voltage" induced incident. Dunno how true this is.
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All ways remember to unhook the battery before you discharge the capacitor with your screw driver. It looks real cool if forget but its hell on the screw driver.
 
Having dealt with 24V military rigs pushing a buttload of amps (easily 4- 1200-1500CCA batteries in series & parallel)... *IF* you get crossed in it, it appeared that most damage was done from all metallic items on your person... as opposed to electrocution like AC (not saying it ain't possible though)

A bud PM'ing a set of cells in a M-900series "gun truck" got shorted... literally vaporized his: dog tags, wedding ring, watch, pocket knife, car keys, small amount of pocket change, & the C-wrench he was holding right into his skin! :O
 
I have seen watch bands and rings burnt into the skin. Removing all metal items is one of the saftey things they stress to us in school.
 
I learned way back when I was repairing power tools (20years ago) that jewelery is a bad thing to have when playing with electricity, and just as dangerious when playing around moving parts. I have not worn any since, watch, wedding band, necklace, nothing. Not even keen on long sleeve shirts/jackets. Which kinda sucks this time a year, 85%+ of my job is outside.
 
Here we go again... another conspiracy by the conglomerates to stick it to the consumer. :fuck-you: to the SOB's (sweet ole boys) who thinks 42vdc is the right number? This proposed change will turn the parts world upside down. How about 48vdc? Actually, 4200vdc will allow all the wiring to be pencil lead thin and easy to work with....why not that? Nice low current values and if you become a conductor, the amperage will be so low the shock will be no worse than a static discharge. Think I will ever buy one of those POS? Don't think so Mr. manufacturer.

Thanks for allowing me to post my tyrade. :beer: :beer:

"Went fishing the other day...wasn't catching anything until I waded into the stream, farted and four fish came up for air. Snatched them bad boys and had a nice dinner" Larry the Cable Guy
 
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