Chatham courthouse burning

kaiser715

kaiser715

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Lots-o-smoke in Pittsboro right now, the old courthouse is burning (in the center of the traffic circle). On TV 5 now, pretty extensive.
 
kaiser715 said:
Welder working in the clock tower when it started.
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Sooooooooo,if your a welder that sets the courthouse on fire do you get paid for the work you did up until the time the fire started or do you call it even???????
 
Fucking sucks... That traffic circle is bad enough, now they wasted all that money renovating for no reason, and burned the fucking icon of our county and town down.
Good job, shitheads.
All the while the Mayor is crying about how there's not enough infrastructure to support the water needs of the fire trucks, after spending a dickload of fucking money to renovate the courthouse that was just fine the way it was.
Shit makes me mad.
 
Xlain said:
Fucking sucks... That traffic circle is bad enough, now they wasted all that money renovating for no reason, and burned the fucking icon of our county and town down.
Good job, shitheads.
All the while the Mayor is crying about how there's not enough infrastructure to support the water needs of the fire trucks, after spending a dickload of fucking money to renovate the courthouse that was just fine the way it was.
Shit makes me mad.
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My county has spent a shit load of money doing renovations around town. The town of Hudson even sent out a survey asking if we thought the beautification of town and the new (expensive to build and to use) recreation center has added to the quality of life and increased our property value.

I don't want my property value to increase...that means higher taxes.....which have increased 17% in the past few years.
 
1stgenxxx said:
My county has spent a shit load of money doing renovations around town. The town of Hudson even sent out a survey asking if we thought the beautification of town and the new (expensive to build and to use) recreation center has added to the quality of life and increased our property value.

I don't want my property value to increase...that means higher taxes.....which have increased 17% in the past few years.
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Is that what they called that? What a crock of shit
 
1stgenxxx said:
I don't want my property value to increase...that means higher taxes.....which have increased 17% in the past few years.
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If you really mean that, you're an idiot. You really want to sell your home later for the same you bought it for?
Even if you're not looking for a profit, inflation happens whether you want it to or not, so if your value dosn't go up at leatst hat much, you're losing money....
 
RatLabGuy said:
If you really mean that, you're an idiot. You really want to sell your home later for the same you bought it for?
Even if you're not looking for a profit, inflation happens whether you want it to or not, so if your value dosn't go up at leatst hat much, you're losing money....
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Oh am I? How so? My house is paid for and I have no plans of selling it. So that means that I'm not loosing a damn thing. I don't care what the value of the house will be when it's passed down to another generation of my family. This place was given to me by my grand parents and I will pass it on in the same way. I don't view it as an asset.....It's a home. I guess that makes me idiot eh?
 
RatLabGuy said:
If you really mean that, you're an idiot. You really want to sell your home later for the same you bought it for?
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yeah, but just because tax value goes up doesnt mean real value goes up.

if tax value goes up...just means county is going broke.
 
BigRedB2 said:
yeah, but just because tax value goes up doesnt mean real value goes up.
if tax value goes up...just means county is going broke.
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Definitely true, also means that more than likely people are leaving the county rather than moving TO it.

Typical sign that the cycle of decline has begun.
 
Rat lab guy, around here alot of people stay in the same home their whole life. Far fetched idea I know. Its a home, not an investment in which people want a return on. When I build my house I plan on being there til I die, I would like for my property value to not go up also, less taxes are good for me too 1stgenxxx
 
90xj said:
Rat lab guy, around here alot of people stay in the same home their whole life. Far fetched idea I know. Its a home, not an investment in which people want a return on. When I build my house I plan on being there til I die, I would like for my property value to not go up also, less taxes are good for me too 1stgenxxx
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word. my dad is in the process of getting our neighbor to let go of another acre or two so we will have the minimum required to be considered a farm.
 
90xj said:
Rat lab guy, around here alot of people stay in the same home their whole life. Far fetched idea I know. Its a home, not an investment in which people want a return on. When I build my house I plan on being there til I die, I would like for my property value to not go up also, less taxes are good for me too 1stgenxxx
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i hear you on that and I know what you mean, we just bought what could be our last house ever as well... bought from the original owner b/c she passed away and her son already had a place to live. Meanwhile this home's "tax value" is $40k more than what we paid and the market value so I'm preparing to fight that myself.

But there's alot more to it than just cash back as resale.
Inflation happens whether you want it to or not, and the value of a dollar goes down. If the local governemnt is going to stay afloat, they have to keep ahead of that at a minimum or they are actually losing money annually. The truth is, the "value" of your home DOES go up, if it dosn't it means that your neighborhood it getting shittier.
Which leads into what IMO is the more important part - it's in your (and all of your neighbors) best interest for the "value" of your home and the area as a whole to stay least with, and preferably ahead of, the value/cost curve for the city... b/c that disctates the people that will live there. Think of it this way, since everywhere else will increase in cost (lets forget value) over time, if yours does not then you will find yourself in the area that is lower cost to buy into. And unfortunately, the sad fact is this brings in more folks w/ lower income and lets just say "less desirable" neighbors... this goes on long enough and eventually you're living among the "riff raff", and while you may not care about ever selling the home, your kids may not really want to stay there themselves.
I know this sounds like a pretentious yuppy way to think about it, but it's an unfortunate truth and you have to protect your family's future.
So what you really want is for the value (and cost) to increase, but only just enough to maintain the status quo, assuming you aren't willing to pay more for it to go up. If your taxes never increased in means the value is going down = bad juju.
To some people it's worth it, others not. We intentionally bough ta home outside of the city and high growth (and tax) areas for what I'm guessing are the same reasons as you guys.

Now of course whether the county's stated "value" and real value match is a totally different issue, as is whether changes in the tax rate reflect actual things like inflation...
 
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