chevy 2500 hd opinions....

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ok iam needing something to pull my truck with so my tacoma has to go, iam looking at some 2500 hd trucks with the 6.0 vortec motor. i see a lot of these trucks with over 200k miles. has anyone owned one of these who can say the goods and bads or what to watch out for....
 
I loved the 6.0 I had but it just sucked the fuel. 13-14 was at best I could get. Towing was worse. Towed strong for a gasser but just decided to get a Dmax when a friend sold me his in 07 and so I sold the gasser. I never had a problem with it besides the speedo going out and that's common with silverados.
 
just got my 2011 they put a 6 speed tranny in with hopes for some fuel mileage increase, i went from a f250 superduty to this 2011 2500 hd 6.0 ext cab 4x4 and i love it plenty of power.
 
buy my 2500 diesel. pull with a ton of power


i dont have diesel truck kinda money. the diesel bandwagon has sky rocketed truck prices.
 
i had a 2002 with the 6.0 and it has plenty of power, i put about 50,000 on mine before i sold it and it had around 135,000 when i sold it, they only problems i had out of mine were the knock sensors going bad which are not hard to change just time consuming because you have to remove the intake. I will say for a gasser it pulls great though, i pulled my yota all the time, it loves high rpms seemed like all my power was between 4000-5200. Great trucks though i miss mine everyday never failed me and i really worked the hell out of it, i wouldn't be afraid to buy one again. also for a gas truck the mpg was not that bad, i had 37x14.50s on mine and still pulled 11 most the time empty, good luck finding one
 
I drove a friends tahoe with 6.0 pulling a big boat several times and it had great power but like mentioned it loved the gas with a load behind it I think we averaged about 7-9mpg. How about the 8.1. From what I've heard they have a ton of power pulling and mileage is probably not too different.
 
I have been pleased with mine, I have owned it and a 03 Duramax, and honestly, unless you are doing severely heavy towing on a regular basis, the Duramax is a luxury more than a necessity.

My 6.0 (before it was lifted) did just fine on 285/75R16s with the 4.10s. I managed 16mpg best on the rural highways around here 55-60mph all the time. Highway mileage would usually drop to ~14mpg, as it didn't like the 70-80mph with the 4.10s. City mileage when I was in college in Raleigh, was more like 11-12mpg.

I bought the truck with 65k miles, it had a gooseneck hitch, and reportedly the truck was used ONLY for towing a horse trailer around to rodeos for a team roper, it wasn't a daily driver. I drove it and everything felt nice and tight and smooth, so I bought it. I towed a 35ft 5th wheel camper for a while with it, mostly in the mountains. I managed 10mpg going up 40 through the mountains and 11mpg coming back, pulled like a dream, I was able to maintain the speed of traffic with no issues. Even after it was lifted on 37s (with 5.13s) I maintained 10mpg pulling my CCLB Duramax 150mi home from Raleigh when the injectors went out.

I should note that all of this driving was done with a few mods. Within the first month of ownership the truck had 285s, magnaflow exhaust, and EFIlive tuning. I will say a custom tune is the single best thing you can do for the 6.0. (Superchips/Hypertech etc, need not apply, waste of money). The difference was night and day, and mileage seemed to go up 1-2mpg, although I had only had the truck a few weeks. LQ4s can consistently see 40-50rwhp gains from a tune only due to how conservatively they are tuned from GM. I had the tune, torque management 0% on normal, and 50% on tow/haul, and shift points raised. (torque management retards the ignition just before shifting to save wear and tear on the transmission), 70k miles later, I have had no issues with the 4l80E, although I do run a larger auxiliary cooler than stock.

Really, I see nothing outstanding to look out for on these trucks other than the normal drive it, feel if everything is tight, check oil, smell transmission fluid, etc.

Pitman and Idler arms are normal to go out every 70k or so, faster if on bigger tires, those are easy to swap out, there is a kit out there to put them in double shear and end any replacement, I have had 50k miles on 37-38s with no more issues with those parts now.

Hubs are common wear items, 50-70k miles, again easy 20 minutes to replace.

Driver side front axle seals commonly leak, especially on a truck that has been cranked for larger tires, easy fix, axle simply slides out.

Knock sensors as mentioned are an issue, and are not bad to swap out just takes a few hours. If they are bad, it will kill your fuel mileage because the ignition will be retarded at all times (CEL will be on). If they are bad, it's because either someone used it as a mud truck, or someone washed the engine bay with a hose. GM TSB for knock sensors specifically says do not clean engine bay :rolleyes: Mine went out 2 weeks after I detailed the engine bay, I didn't even use a hose, just a spray bottle. They are located in the lifter valley and water gets trapped there.

Google GM Piston Slap, and read up on it. It is more of an annoyance than anything, sounds like ticking lifters. My truck will do it if I let it sit a few weeks, then will stop after a few minutes. My father in law's 5.3 does it ALL the time, and has for years. My brother's truck did it, and it was still going strong at 280k miles when he sold it.


Even if you don't see any leaking, keep a close eye on the t case level

The fix for this is easy though, if you catch it before it rubs through. I have been meaning to do the fix for mine, but 135k mi and no issues so far.
I loved the 6.0 I had but it just sucked the fuel. 13-14 was at best I could get. Towing was worse. Towed strong for a gasser but just decided to get a Dmax when a friend sold me his in 07 and so I sold the gasser. I never had a problem with it besides the speedo going out and that's common with silverados.
The speedo(and other gauges) going out was common for 03-07classic models, 01-02 did not have this issue. Many of these were fixed under warranty with updated clusters or stepper motors. If it happens to go out afterwards, the stepper motor replacement is pretty easy.
 
I drove a friends tahoe with 6.0 pulling a big boat several times and it had great power but like mentioned it loved the gas with a load behind it I think we averaged about 7-9mpg. How about the 8.1. From what I've heard they have a ton of power pulling and mileage is probably not too different.
8.1 is great, a torque monster, and towing mileage is similar, unloaded, expect 2-3 less than a 6.0 at all times. They have more issues than the 6.0, and parts are harder to find. They love to drink oil, and many of them start smoking above 70k miles. Still I would love to have one.
 
i have an 03 ccsb with the 6.0. done the hubs, knock sensors and window regs thats about it for the past 4 years. bone stock, 265s and 4.10s, i get about 12mpg with everyday driving and 9-10 towing. plenty of power but keep it under 70 on the highway, it'll do much better. no real complaints other than the mpgs.
 
I have had mine since 05 .I have put over 100k on it. It had the steering column replaced under warrenty and the cluster was done also. It is still on the original brakes. It has been the best truck I have owned so far
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Ive had em all, if your gonna go gas, go with the 8.1, then you get the allison transmission. Combo kicks ass, 6.0's Ive had dont like the mountains especially with the auto. Same stretch of highway going through asheville on 40 pulling my jeep and gear, it was taching high, tranny gauge was getting warm....same stretch with the 8.1 allison was like a walk in the park. If your mot gonna tow in the mountains 6.0 will be fine
 
I have been pleased with mine, I have owned it and a 03 Duramax, and honestly, unless you are doing severely heavy towing on a regular basis, the Duramax is a luxury more than a necessity.

My 6.0 (before it was lifted) did just fine on 285/75R16s with the 4.10s. I managed 16mpg best on the rural highways around here 55-60mph all the time. Highway mileage would usually drop to ~14mpg, as it didn't like the 70-80mph with the 4.10s. City mileage when I was in college in Raleigh, was more like 11-12mpg.

I bought the truck with 65k miles, it had a gooseneck hitch, and reportedly the truck was used ONLY for towing a horse trailer around to rodeos for a team roper, it wasn't a daily driver. I drove it and everything felt nice and tight and smooth, so I bought it. I towed a 35ft 5th wheel camper for a while with it, mostly in the mountains. I managed 10mpg going up 40 through the mountains and 11mpg coming back, pulled like a dream, I was able to maintain the speed of traffic with no issues. Even after it was lifted on 37s (with 5.13s) I maintained 10mpg pulling my CCLB Duramax 150mi home from Raleigh when the injectors went out.

I should note that all of this driving was done with a few mods. Within the first month of ownership the truck had 285s, magnaflow exhaust, and EFIlive tuning. I will say a custom tune is the single best thing you can do for the 6.0. (Superchips/Hypertech etc, need not apply, waste of money). The difference was night and day, and mileage seemed to go up 1-2mpg, although I had only had the truck a few weeks. LQ4s can consistently see 40-50rwhp gains from a tune only due to how conservatively they are tuned from GM. I had the tune, torque management 0% on normal, and 50% on tow/haul, and shift points raised. (torque management retards the ignition just before shifting to save wear and tear on the transmission), 70k miles later, I have had no issues with the 4l80E, although I do run a larger auxiliary cooler than stock.

Really, I see nothing outstanding to look out for on these trucks other than the normal drive it, feel if everything is tight, check oil, smell transmission fluid, etc.

Pitman and Idler arms are normal to go out every 70k or so, faster if on bigger tires, those are easy to swap out, there is a kit out there to put them in double shear and end any replacement, I have had 50k miles on 37-38s with no more issues with those parts now.

Hubs are common wear items, 50-70k miles, again easy 20 minutes to replace.

Driver side front axle seals commonly leak, especially on a truck that has been cranked for larger tires, easy fix, axle simply slides out.

Knock sensors as mentioned are an issue, and are not bad to swap out just takes a few hours. If they are bad, it will kill your fuel mileage because the ignition will be retarded at all times (CEL will be on). If they are bad, it's because either someone used it as a mud truck, or someone washed the engine bay with a hose. GM TSB for knock sensors specifically says do not clean engine bay :rolleyes: Mine went out 2 weeks after I detailed the engine bay, I didn't even use a hose, just a spray bottle. They are located in the lifter valley and water gets trapped there.

Google GM Piston Slap, and read up on it. It is more of an annoyance than anything, sounds like ticking lifters. My truck will do it if I let it sit a few weeks, then will stop after a few minutes. My father in law's 5.3 does it ALL the time, and has for years. My brother's truck did it, and it was still going strong at 280k miles when he sold it.




The fix for this is easy though, if you catch it before it rubs through. I have been meaning to do the fix for mine, but 135k mi and no issues so far.

The speedo(and other gauges) going out was common for 03-07classic models, 01-02 did not have this issue. Many of these were fixed under warranty with updated clusters or stepper motors. If it happens to go out afterwards, the stepper motor replacement is pretty easy.

great posting and good info, i refer back to this when i get one. I to plan on getting a 6.0 HOPEFULLY come income tax time. i want to get a base model ECSB 5spd manual. GMC or Chevy. But ive heard the 5pd/6.0 combo was bad about the tcase going out.
 
great posting and good info, i refer back to this when i get one. I to plan on getting a 6.0 HOPEFULLY come income tax time. i want to get a base model ECSB 5spd manual. GMC or Chevy. But ive heard the 5pd/6.0 combo was bad about the tcase going out.
I would love to have the NV4500 combo, mainly to rip out and put into my 78 along with the 6.0. The transfer case is the same as the NP261/NP263 that is in the Auto trucks. (Same is used behind 8.1 and Dmax trucks as well).

Only issue with it is Pump Rub, where the pump will literally rub through the magnesium housing, leaking fluid, and therefore killing the transfer case. There is a preventative fix that is cheap and relatively easy, but requires taking apart the case. If it has already rubbed through and sprung a leak it usually requires a new back half of the case (which is actually shared between many other NP cases such as 241,243, 149, etc) Although some have gotten by with the pump rub fix and JB weld to plug the hole.
 
shameless plug but i'm desperate to sell.
link:
http://www.nc4x4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122447
it's sitting at a dealer in wilmington, nc. he is trying to help me sell it. he can take trades on it and help get financing. it has around 103,800 miles. he put price of 12,500 on it, but obviously thats negotiable. i will take a little less. (he knows my bottom dollar.)


i wish i could afford that, idk how many times i have looked at your post
 
i dont have diesel truck kinda money. the diesel bandwagon has sky rocketed truck prices.


fair enough. I have had two trucks with the 6.0, I wouldn't waste my time on it again. just some advise. the minimal gain in power over the 5.3 isn't worth the gas mileage the other 99% of the time.
 
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