cute Ute for new drivers

I had an '89 myself actually. That was my first car in '93.
I've had a string of Subarus like most of you guys have had a string of Jeeps.
 
Ron said:
knowing that we are stable enough that it wasnt going to hurt us financially...
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Not to derail and probably a solid thread on it's own, but a buddy and I were doing lunch yesterday and discussing how ^^^that^^^ changes perspective on damn near everything. Fresh out of college Ben used to justify primitive camping because he loved it...you know what's better than an old lumpy sleeping bag...a $300/night hotel. Fresh out of college Ben used to justify doing his own vehicle work because he didn't trust anyone else...nah homie, it's because I had $14 in my bank account and couldn't afford any other option. Hell, 3 years ago I thought I'd raise my kids to be 'hard'...brought up just the way I was, they get underwear for Christmas and rocks/sticks were legitimate toys...sheeeeeeyiiiittt...if we pass by anything princess/glitter/unicorn, it'll come home with us. And to be quite honest, I barely wanna work on my own vehicles these days, I don't wanna work on my kids...and considering 10-20 year old stuff with 200k on the clock can still push $10-20k, I kinda like the idea of having the kids in something new and safe for the same price, especially considering my first vehicle was a $5000 25 year old truck, if there would have been a new option for only $1500 more, I woulda probably opted for that route too.
 
I get the "new car, no problems, lease is up, it is gone" idea....but that doesn't set a great mindset for the future......I have probably been through 100 cars give or take in my day....and every one starts out as something that is "mine" and something that I have to take care of. I am not sure what starting out with a car that I knew would be turned into the dealer in 24 months would have done to that mindset.....16 year old me probably would have treated that rig like a rental! I think this makes you look at everything as disposable, don't fix it....get a new one!

One of my fondest memories as a kid was spending the better part of a year going through the penny saver and the local classifieds trying to find vehicles that my father and I would go look at.......this was long before the internet and instant pictures......I learned how to talk to people on the phone, how to take directions, and how to feel out people and the B.S. they were pushing.
 
shelby27604 said:
I am not sure what starting out with a car that I knew would be turned into the dealer in 24 months would have done to that mindset.....16 year old me probably would have treated that rig like a rental! I think this makes you look at everything as disposable, don't fix it....get a new one!
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15 year old me bought and paid for my first truck, 16 year old me was hit head on by an uninsured drunk driver and I only had liability insurance, 16-17 year old me bought/sold/flipped 100 or so cars/trucks so 17-18 year old me could afford to do my very first restoration to the tune of $30,000. 33 year old me...vehicles are disposable.
 
shelby27604 said:
I get the "new car, no problems, lease is up, it is gone" idea....but that doesn't set a great mindset for the future......I have probably been through 100 cars give or take in my day....and every one starts out as something that is "mine" and something that I have to take care of. I am not sure what starting out with a car that I knew would be turned into the dealer in 24 months would have done to that mindset.....16 year old me probably would have treated that rig like a rental! I think this makes you look at everything as disposable, don't fix it....get a new one!

One of my fondest memories as a kid was spending the better part of a year going through the penny saver and the local classifieds trying to find vehicles that my father and I would go look at.......this was long before the internet and instant pictures......I learned how to talk to people on the phone, how to take directions, and how to feel out people and the B.S. they were pushing.
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This may sound sexist so sorry in advance @trailhugger ...but I get it.
And again my son, same mindset.
My daughter doesnt want to be a car guy. They are just means of transportation to her. Her live stock arent disposable. Thats where her priorities are. And I did leave a key part out, int hat we had this very covnersation prior to getting the truck. Understand the choice you are making. You are planning on agreat career and a good income. If you want to do things this way, YOU HAVE to work EXTRA hard AND earn more than average to be able to support that style.

I actually want to encourage her to be wealthy and practice trickle down economics. Maybe she will pay me to fix her junk.
 
Ron said:
She does a great job. Doesnt even speed. Not even a little.
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Aight, we need to talk. It's good that your kiddo is obedient, but the rest of us have places to be, and passing zones are becoming an endangered species these days...
 
shawn said:
Are you obligated to do the maintenance?
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All maintenance is covered at no cost . They pick up and provide loaner and car wash while doing. But no. I did read the fine print and there is surprisingly no maintenance requirement.

FYI it’s a 3rd party lease so not a stanadard Toyota financial deal.
 
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