DHOLTBURBAN

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Grumpy, decrepit Old Man
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OK Yeah, there is a story behind this old truck:

I friend of mine Don Holt, had been looking for an older Suburban for quiet some time. We had had many conversations both on the phone and online about what it was he was looking for. I had found several that kinda sorta fit his agenda, but most were in really poor condition(mostly rust)
I finally found one in my searches that seemed to be what he wanted. I sent him a link and he drove to see it. This was the one! He bought it, and drove it home. Honestly, you couldn't have found one any more plain. Never had AC, Never even had a radio. Never had a headliner! It's a 3/4 ton Suburban with a 44 front, and a semi float rear. In a previous life, it served as part of a fire dept.

So, after the truck was found, out conversations shifted from finding a truck, to "what to do to it to make it as dependable as possible"

Basically, these conversations produced a parts list. What to do to make sure it was in running condition for a long haul if need be, what should be checked or replaced and so on.

Don had purchased a lot of parts for the truck to include:
Everything for the brakes, drums(which ended up being the wrong ones, but that was Ok, the old ones were still in great shape) Small parts for the rear brakes, new shoes, for the front, new hubs and rotors, new calipers, brake pads, and hydraulic hoses. The truck came with the auto hubs, but he bought a new set of Warn lock out hubs. The door gaskets were in poor shape, so he bought all new door rubber, as well as the kits to rebuild the door hinges and new striker bolts. Also has the (don't know proper name) the spring parts that hold the door open. He also bought all new steering linkage parts. Tie rod, drag link, all TRE's and even ball joints and steering stabilizer.

So last spring Don started feeling bad. HE had what he thought was a bad cold that he just couldn't shake. Over time, Don started feeling worse and worse. Finally he was convinced to go to the doctor. At the doctors office. At the Doctors office, it was nearly immediately found the root of Don's issues. He had Leukemia. The sent him directly to the hospital and started treatments. That was on or about the 28th of July. Don never made it home. He died on August 5th.

So, the truck sit in his yard.

Don's wife soon come to the conclusion, that she didn't want to stay there. She wanted to move back to the Murphy/N. Georgia area, where she was from, and had family. So she and I begin conversations of identifying a lot of things Don owned, what they were, and what she could sell them for.During these conversations she brought up the Suburban. She wanted rid of it. She needed to sell out a lot of the stuff around there so she could put her home up for sale, and move back home. I told her that even though the truck needed a lot of work, it did have value, but with what it was and what all Don had bought for it, I wasn't sure what she should ask for it. I told her I'd love to have it myself. So she says, "do you want it?" and I as politely as I could, I told her yes, but what I could offer would offend her. BUt I would try and help her sell it. So she asked again, do you want it? And yet again, I told her I really didn't have the money for it. So then she says, you helped Don find this truck, and helped him with getting all the parts for it. Then she says, if you want it, you can have it! This was kinda your and Don's project. I think Don would want you to have it, if you want it, and willing to finish it, you can have it. I just ask that you keep me up to date with pictures and progress reports.

So, I went to Watersboro SC and picked it up.

When my son and I got there, the tires were flat, and drivers side tire was off and was tore down to just the spindle. All the parts were there, dirty, nasty from sitting under the truck. I sprayed all the bearing out with WD, and put just enough back together to load it on the trailer. We got the tires pumped back up. After sitting so long, I got in, pumped the accelerator a few times, and it fired up. quit several times, but finally stayed running. We were prepare for it not to drive onto the trailer, but as luck has it, it did, and made it so much more easier to load.

Stay tuned for what happened after we got it home and really started to inspect and work on it.

As it was, when I got it:
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Once I got it home, the first time I did was clean it up some. Awesome cleaner, and purple power was the solution to most of it grime, along with some elbow grease. There was so much to do, that at this point, I didn't even make a list. First was just an inspection of what I saw and what to do. First off, I noticed there had been some recent work under the hood. It had new hoses on it, new belts, New(or rebuilt) Battery, alternator, PS pump. and steering box. Also noticed that the frme had been repaired and the plate installed under the steering box where these trucks were bad for the steering box was bad to rip
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out of the frame. I checked the distributor cap, plugs, wires, and decided that they had not been changed. I I went to our favorite place, RockAuto.com and got all the tune up stuff and installed it all. NExt was an inspection of the cooling system. Yucky was an understatement! I flushed it several times. Found something I had never seen before. I was getting bugs coming out of the radiator! To be specific, Palmetto bugs, native to the SC area's from which I got the truck. It had a radiator cap on it, but although it was in bad shape, not bad enough for the bugs to get inside So that part remains a mystery. (I also found live ones inside the truck, under the rubber mats, so thse were taken care of with a can of raid)
I flushed it till it was clear, running it, cycling the water to make sure that part was as good as I could get it. Looking into the radiator, the core wasn't bad at all. So I changed the thermostat, filled it with coolant, and replaced the cap with a new one. The under hood work was done for now so I moved to the interior. The seat was, well, VERY well used. I made a few calls and one of my friends had an old square bady truck that had caught on fire. the firewall and dash forward was a total loss. The seat wasn't burnt, but it was nearly black with soot. He give me the seat, as well as some door mirrors. I started the cleaning process. first spraying the seat with awesome cleaner, and then vacuuming it. I was getting some results, but had to change direction. Just not producing the results I wanted. So, armed with a mixture of awesome cleaner and purple power, I soaked the seat and went to it with the pressure washer. The more I cleaned, the more blue started to show!. When I wasn't getting any more black, I vacuumed it and tilted it for what was left to drip out, and let it sit in the sun for several days. End result pictured. no black and no smell. I was good with the results.
 
I pulled the old seat out, cleaned everything as best as I could and installed the new(er) seat. Made a huge difference on the appearance. The back seat was in pretty good condition, except for the back of it(facing the cargo area) to it will be way down on the list to do anything to it.
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From here, I took it to my son's garage(I don't have one) and started installing the parts that filled the cargo area. First up was the front axle parts. It got all the new hoses, calipers, pads, bearings, and I replaced the auto hubs with the new Warn lock outs.Two of the bearings were the wrong ones. So I cleaned up the two old ones. soaked them with WD multiple times, rolled them, sprayed them out and took the air to them, and upon inspection, they were USA made, and no signs of heat, pitting and still tight, so I regreased them, and back in they went.
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Next was the rear brakes. Not at all in bad condition, but, since I had the parts, I put them all on. except as mentioned in first post, the drums. The drums that came on it was a much bigger drum. And when measuring the inside of the new drum and the old one, was same, so I just used it. all new shoes, small parts, and a couple cans of brake parts cleaner, it went back together. After bleeding and adjusting the brakes, I have VERY good brakes that I have confidence in! Sorry no pics of the the rears going back together. The rear axle got fresh lube. I have yet to change the front gear lube, but, it's on the list.
 
Back under the hood I found more stuff, and as expected, the battery box was in poor condition as was the over flow jug the inner fender rusted out under the battery box too. I ordered a new batter box, but couldn't find a over flow bottle. So for now the new battery box is installed, and a antifreeze gallon jug is serving as the overflow. cleaned up, wire brushed as much of the rusted area under the battery box as I could, shot some paint, and called it good. I also put new cables on both the positive and negative on the battery. Good ground, good cable to the starter, I have a warm and fuzzy feeling that the new cables and die electric grease will help keep the charging system working right.

As mentioned before, this truck used to be part of a fire dept. So it has/had(not all are off yet) decals from those years of service. I bought a 3M eraser wheel and went to town on the decals. Now I have used one of these before on my Jeep. Where I took off the Wrangler sticker off the hood, and replaced it with UPNOVER II. Piece of cake! The decals that were from the fire dept, well, let's just say they are tough! Hours spent so far and only about half are gone. My shoulder and arm wear out after a while, so that's still an on going project.

The truck came with Hummer II wheels, 17" with 315 BFG AT's on them. Not a fan of those wheels, I bought a set of 2001 Dodge wheels with 305 BFG AT's. Right lug pattern, but fronts would not bolt up because of back spacing. So I bought a set of steel wheels from a CUCV, and I am going to put the 305's on them. Maybe I will run across a deal on some older hub caps with the lock out hole's in the front two??

So as of now, I still have the rear barn door gaskets to install(not sure yet, if they are the correct ones) all the steering stuff. I also have the new door stuff that I won't tackle myself. I'll take them to a body shop to get them put in.
Much more to do and wanna do, but I am at the end of getting all Don bought put on.
 
I'm pumped about this one. Backstory is as good as it gets! I'm a fan of a Suburban anyways so I can't wait to see what happens.

And a Lake Murray truck? Those things are rare and extremely sought after. Nothing ever rusts around there either.
 
I'm pumped about this one. Backstory is as good as it gets! I'm a fan of a Suburban anyways so I can't wait to see what happens.

And a Lake Murray truck? Those things are rare and extremely sought after. Nothing ever rusts around there either.

It'll never be a show truck by any means. Just a good solid truck that can be driven where ever you want to go.
And yes it doe have some rust. Not a lot, but some. Most of it is due to the bad door gaskets, but nothing to make me fall through the floor or parts falling off.
 
Forgot to mention, I had some exhaust work done to it. Muffler had blown out(backfire??) and tail pipe had hoes in it. So I had those replaced, sure made it a lot quieter! But it showed another issue. The heat riser was leaking, or is leaking. Gonna take up to Larry's in Taylorsville, have him drop the front exhaust, knock out the flapper inside( I'd bet it frozen) weld up the holes and re-install it with a new gasket, should be quiet then!
 
As mentioned before, this truck used to be part of a fire dept. So it has/had(not all are off yet) decals from those years of service. I bought a 3M eraser wheel and went to town on the decals. Now I have used one of these before on my Jeep. Where I took off the Wrangler sticker off the hood, and replaced it with UPNOVER II. Piece of cake! The decals that were from the fire dept, well, let's just say they are tough! Hours spent so far and only about half are gone. My shoulder and arm wear out after a while, so that's still an on going project.

The truck came with Hummer II wheels, 17" with 315 BFG AT's on them. Not a fan of those wheels, I bought a set of 2001 Dodge wheels with 305 BFG AT's. Right lug pattern, but fronts would not bolt up because of back spacing. So I bought a set of steel wheels from a CUCV, and I am going to put the 305's on them. Maybe I will run across a deal on some older hub caps with the lock out hole's in the front two?
Too late now, but I really liked the fire dept stickers and the H2 wheels. A bit of history and a modern touch.
 
Did Don buy this from a guy in Newberry? This was my buddies old rig. I've got a soft spot for these old burbs...... here's my 89. Subscribed and looking forward to watching the build progress.

 
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