wbcarver said:
Not knowing the rest of the details.
As another shop owner- I am damn impressed with Andy coming on and owning it like he has.
In this business Sheet happens. Especially when you get into one-offs and semi-exotic builds. Which are going to get taken out and beat on in every imaginable way (and a few un-imaginable ways).
Anyone who has never had a job go wrong - probably hasn't done much.
When bad things happen - you man-up - make it right and go on.
From the outside looking in - that is what I see.
There isn't a thumbs up icon so how about a
wow!! alot of shit being thrown about my rig here.
I wasn't going to say much about it but i guess after all this discussion i need to chime in here.
The reality of it is, a weld was missed, a four link broke, and it royally sucked and ruined my vacation. The facts that are missing from this discussion are that before everything went bad and after we welded the crossmember back up THE SUSPENSION WORKED REALLY WELL. Had that weld not have been missed I would have been very pleased with the outcome of the suspension.
as bill said, "Anyone who has never had a job go wrong, has NOT done much".
In the end, I ripped Andy pretty badly for missing this, he took it like a man and vowed to make it right at any cost. To me that means a lot!!
Any body who knows me personally, knows I got completely taken for a ride by another so called 4x4 fab shop. when everything went south on the last build that other shops owner told me to go suck an egg, in so many words. and to this day he still has not made it right. Over a year later at the cnc show he trudged up to me and offered to do something only after finding out how public i AM ABOUT HIS SHODDY WORKMANSHIP. he also only offered to do something if i brought the new and improved rig down to him over 3 hrs from my home. I had already brough it to them 3 times prior and they sent me out with a shock welded solid in place of a lower link. FAWKIN REDICULOUS!!
tHATS WHY i WENT TO ANDY IN THE FIRST PLACE, to straighten out the other shops fiasco.
now hopefully you notice the difference in these two major players in the NC area. Andy cowboyd up and instantly offered to make it right, not to mention withstood my loads of verbal abuse. and for that i will continue to use him and he still remains among one of my good friends.
john (studnuts) proved to be a good friend and was willing to jump right in and help back at camp. all that and i did not even know him yet.
He proved he is of good charachter and i look forward to wheelin with him again soon.
also, I run shops for a living all over N.C., so i completely understand that somtimes things go wrong. Its what happens after the wake of disaster that separates the TRUE PROFESSIONALS from the fly by night, dont give a shits!!
I get alot of shit for letting somebody else do my 4 link, but it has been said numerous times here on the board, "anybody can build a 4 link, but only a few can do it right".
I want to stress again that this is my second attempt a four link under this rig and the CRS JOB worked light years better than the competitions (except the weld that broke)!
because this has made it to the world wide in-tard-web, i will be sure to post up and let everybody know what the outcome is, good or bad.
And to that "other" shop, i dare you to come in and challenge what I wrote b/c i have been biting my tongue for a long time and all I need is a reason to flame you fawker!
