Drill Press Arbor, Keyless or Not?

For a drill press IMO keye chuck is the only way to go.
This is a tool that (1) doesn't move, and is easy to keep a key with and (2) has a high likelihood of someday somebody putting something serious in it.

Hang the key on a chain attached to the press so it can't walk away. Bright yellow tape all over it so you can find it.
 
I'm in the Key chuck camp. My keyless chucks always loosen up, doesn't matter who makes the drill. The drill press stays tight.
 
I got an albrecht keyless chuck with my mill and it made me never want another keyd chuck. I think we have a Jacob’s keyless at work, it’s gotten locked up a time or two and had to be broken loose with a large pair of channel locks. They both seem to hold bits great even larger diameter.
 
Keyless for hand tools keyed for things with belts and gears.
 
hurt4x4 said:
I got an albrecht keyless chuck with my mill and it made me never want another keyd chuck. I think we have a Jacob’s keyless at work, it’s gotten locked up a time or two and had to be broken loose with a large pair of channel locks. They both seem to hold bits great even larger diameter.
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There’s a difference between a cheapo keyless and a good one like an Albrecht. Or course they can have problems too, but man they are so nice to use 99.99% of the time.
 
Recently heard an interesting tip on keyless chucks.

Once you tighten the chuck, lightly turn it backwards and you get a “click”. This locks the chuck from lossening up.

Anyone else heard or tested this?
 
Doesn’t make sense to me, but I’ve never studied them. I assume they are a typical thread which activates the linear wedge motion of the jaws, so anything in the opposite direction would be counterproductive. Maybe the logic is that having it against a detent would be better than freely floating between the detents, but you could do the same by keeping it tight I would think.
 
jeepinmatt said:
Doesn’t make sense to me, but I’ve never studied them. I assume they are a typical thread which activates the linear wedge motion of the jaws, so anything in the opposite direction would be counterproductive. Maybe the logic is that having it against a detent would be better than freely floating between the detents, but you could do the same by keeping it tight I would think.
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And correct me if I'm wrong but a keyed chuck is the exact same mechanism, the only difference is you're using a little gear connected to a big fulcrum lever (key handle) to turn it a little more than you can by directly turning the collar by hand (keyless)
 
jeepinmatt said:
Doesn’t make sense to me, but I’ve never studied them. I assume they are a typical thread which activates the linear wedge motion of the jaws, so anything in the opposite direction would be counterproductive. Maybe the logic is that having it against a detent would be better than freely floating between the detents, but you could do the same by keeping it tight I would think.
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This has always made me wonder - why dafuq do we make them this way? Why not have the chuck spin the other direction so that it gets tighter as it is pushed back against the work?

Related - this is one reason why left handed drill bits are awesome for extracting broken bolts. The spinning of the drill bit naturally pulls them out. I don't understand why all bolt extractors aren't left handed.
 
awheelterd said:
Are they not? All of mine are
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Sorry I misspoke. The extractors themselves typically are but the bits that come with them to get them started often are not.

I never use conventional extractors anymore. Just lefthanded bits.
 
RatLabGuy said:
Sorry I misspoke. The extractors themselves typically are but the bits that come with them to get them started often are not.

I never use conventional extractors anymore. Just lefthanded bits.
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You have been darn lucky! I usually get stuff already fubared with broken tools in it or similar to the Titanic in terms of corrosion.
 
WARRIORWELDING said:
You have been darn lucky! I usually get stuff already fubared with broken tools in it or similar to the Titanic in terms of corrosion.
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Thhere's nothing worse than when you get an extractor or other tool broken off in the thing you were trying to extract... nwo you have schucnk of hardened tool steel in the way to deal with. Thats when the real cussing starts.
 
RatLabGuy said:
Thhere's nothing worse than when you get an extractor or other tool broken off in the thing you were trying to extract... nwo you have schucnk of hardened tool steel in the way to deal with. Thats when the real cussing starts.
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