Duel Citizenship in the Government

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by Hyperlite, May 11, 2010.

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What do you think about duel citizenship in our Government

  1. Duel citizenship is ok for high level US Government Positions

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  2. Duel citizenship is NOT ok for high level US Government Positions

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  3. I dont care

    13.3%
  1. Hyperlite

    Hyperlite Well-Known Member

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    Ok with out getting political (so it wont be moved to the garage) I was curious what NC people think about people with duel citizenship holding key government positions. What I mean is Homeland Security, Mayors, Attorney General, Pentagon's Defense Policy Board, Dick Cheney's ex-Chief of Staff, Defense Secretary etc etc. So to keep it from being "political" I am summiting a poll to take the political discussion out. Just curious what yall think about. So if you post in this thread try to keep it factual so it not to be seen as a political discussion.
    BTW there is a law about this
    The 1940 Nationality Act
    Section 401 (e) of the 1940 Nationality Act provides that a U.S. citizen, whether by birth or naturalization, "shall lose his [U.S.] nationality by...voting in a political election in a foreign state."
    but..... it only applys to most as some "people" are exempt.....
     
  2. braxton357

    braxton357 Robot

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    If you want to work for the US government, then being only a US citizen shouldn't be too much to ask. Especially for positions that require any sort of clearance.

    That being said, I challenge you to a duel sir.

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  3. XJfreakHO

    XJfreakHO Triad Trail Junkies

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    Considering I have a friend who has been on visa for most of his life, I disagree. He basically brags that if ever the US goes into lockdown and we aren't allowed to leave, he is because he is a british national.

    I think you should have only US citizenship to be a leader. Simple as that.
     
  4. catfishblues

    catfishblues Well-Known Member

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    My brother was born on an Air Force base in the Phillipines in 1972. Phillipino citizenship. Came to the US at 1 or 2 years old. Got his US citizenship. I don't always agree with his politics, but I think he's more capable of holding public office than most of the jackasses we vote in.
     
  5. braxton357

    braxton357 Robot

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    Are your parents from the philippines? Otherwise I don't understand how he would have been born a phillipino citizen? And, when a person immigrates from another country they can choose to be a US citizen or to have dual citizenship. It's not like it's something that can't be changed. Unless you're ready to renounce your citizenship and allegiance to another country, why should you be a leader or even government employee in this one?
     
  6. Hyperlite

    Hyperlite Well-Known Member

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    He can have citizenship of both. Im assuming Mother is Phillipino and father US (Air Force). He was born on US soil and is American but has to renounce the Phillipino citizenship. Meaning he cant vote in their election or join their military.

    But for example the exceptions:

    "Israel's "Law of Return" (under which any Jew may immigrate to and become a citizen of Israel) confers Israeli citizenship automatically, without the immigrant having to apply for it, attend any ceremony, or swear an oath of allegiance. The Israeli law may originally have been written this way to encourage American Jews to move to Israel; they could, in theory, argue that they had not explicitly requested Israeli citizenship and were thus still entitled to keep their U.S. citizenship."

    You can fight in the Israeli army and still be a US citizen and you can also become an upper level cabnet member of Whitehouse all while being an active member of the Isreali Government.

    BTW the "Law Of Return" is determined by DNA testing
     
  7. Hyperlite

    Hyperlite Well-Known Member

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    it doesnt work the same for other countrys... I do agree with Catfish about his brother being more capable but dont think he could be a Phillipino Politician and a US Politician
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    I was unable to find any us citizen holding any of these positions above



    maybe I should have clarified the origional question.
    ---Should people holding key upper level government position while swearing allegence to another country?
     
  8. catfishblues

    catfishblues Well-Known Member

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    No, both parents are American, many generations deep. I'm not sure on the legalities regarding his Phillipino citizenship, but that was what I was raised to believe. He's got dual citizenship. Naturally, he was too young to renounce when he was brought back and assigned his US papers and SSN. Mom has bugged him about renouncing his Phillipino 'ship, but he's either too lazy to do the paperwork or just doesn't care. For whatever reason, I don't see him defecting any time soon. Don't worry.
     

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