Eastern Yotes

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Pretty much my favorite animal...........
 
Coy dogs and coyotes have been a pain around here for a while. They are tough on the calves and have even took down some donkeys in the pasture. We shoot em at night and trap them but there is way to many to make much of an impact on the population.
 
Western yotes are smaller and are mostly single animals, eastern yotes are about 15-20% bigger in body mass and pack. The ones that were reintroduced in to the southern us came from a pack out of Texas after they were released back into the wild they were DNA tested and found to have up to 25% wolf
 
I've heard the Red Wolves they released in the Aligator NWR are now breeding w the yotes. If that's true they wasted a bunch of time and money trying to re-introduce them. I've seen lots of coyotes over the years and at least 3 that were as large as a german shepherd. One near Columbia S.C. was red w a black back and face, it looked more like a wolf than a skinny coyote, One dead on US1 and one I should have shot hunting near Jordan Lake. I spooked it stillhuntin and thought it was a big dog for a moment, buy the time I got the shotgun up I didn't have a shot. I talked to a guy who said the state collared one in S.C. ? and it traveled up I-95 all the way to Richmond, he said they find plenty of food on/near the interstates and apparently roam them.
 
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The ones I've seen north and east of rocky mount look more like wolf than anything. More brown than grey wolf.

They are similar in size to a 60-80 lbs German shepherd.

We often hear a pack from our back yard on some nights. Sometimes as close as 150 yards. Through my backyard and across a road is out of the city limits to a large block of woods with only one road separating it from another HUGE area of woods.

I have never seen one alone. Fewest I've seen is two, most I've seen is 7.

Have heard a couple farmers have lost dogs to them. One yote will approach house and taunt and play with pet dogs and lure them into chasing them into wood line to be ambushed by pack.
 
I've killed 3 this year possibly 4 but couldn't find a body just blood. None have been over 40 lbs. I've only seen a pair once. Almost always alone and all 4 shots were in broad daylight. I don't know what bloodline they have but it looks good spread across the field.
 
My buddy Nick and his friend John called in some yotes around lincolnton a few days back and ended up bringing in a mountain lion as well. Watch the thermal on YouTube. It's under " Nc coyote cougar sighting" or something similar.
 
 
anvilrubi said:
Coy dogs and coyotes have been a pain around here for a while. They are tough on the calves and have even took down some donkeys in the pasture. We shoot em at night and trap them but there is way to many to make much of an impact on the population.
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Sponges are very effective and cheap.
Errr....So I have heard since that is illegal in SC. Allegedly you go to a butcher shop and buy pigs blood or cows blood. Cut large raw sponges into 2-3" (heard some folks using 5" squares...guess it depends on how big the predators are) squares soak them in the blood and drop them where Yotes are a problem. KEEP YOUR DOGS AWAY FROM THE AREA.

Rumors suggest that a local farmer may have picked up over 40 carcasses in under 2 months...
 
Ron said:
Sponges are very effective and cheap.
Errr....So I have heard since that is illegal in SC. Allegedly you go to a butcher shop and buy pigs blood or cows blood. Cut large raw sponges into 2-3" (heard some folks using 5" squares...guess it depends on how big the predators are) squares soak them in the blood and drop them where Yotes are a problem. KEEP YOUR DOGS AWAY FROM THE AREA.

Rumors suggest that a local farmer may have picked up over 40 carcasses in under 2 months...
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Don't quote me, but last I checked the only regulation is no centerfires at night and you have to be 10ft of the ground. All year long spot lights, night vision, baits, calls whatever is legal in SC.
 
sponges aren't baits.
Its considered crual and malicious molestation of wildlife. The Yote eats the sponge it expands in their stomach, clogs their digestive path and they die a slow and painful death from constipation.
 
Coyotes & Armadillos A hunting license is required, however there is no closed season on hunting coyotes and armadillos on private land statewide during daylight hours. The use of bait and electronic calls is legal. Coyotes and armadillos may be hunted at night with or without the aid of bait, electronic calls, artificial lights, or night vision devices using a bow and arrow other than a crossbow, a rimfire rifle, a shotgun with shot size no larger than a BB, or a pistol of any caliber having iron sights, a barrel length not exceeding nine inches. The pistol may not be equipped with a butt-stock, scope, or laser sight. From the last day of February to July 1, upon notification to SCDNR (www.dnr.sc.gov/nighthunt) at least 48 hours in advance, coyotes may be hunted at night with artificial lights and night vision devices using any legal firearm, bow, or crossbow. Notice to the SCDNR is required once per season for each property and the names and hunting license numbers of each person participating in the hunt must be listed. Hunters using centerfire rifles during this time must be at an elevated position at least 10 feet from the ground. Persons hunting with subsonic ammunition do not have to hunt from an elevated position, provided they do not possess supersonic ammunition for that weapon. Persons convicted of certain road hunting and night hunting violations during the previous five years are ineligible to hunt coyotes at night. Coyotes and armadillos cannot be hunted at night on WMA lands but can be hunted during the day on WMAs where coyote and armadillo hunting is allowed. On WMA lands, weapons used to hunt coyotes and armadillos are limited to the weapon(s) that are allowed for the current open season on the WMA — see WMA seasons listing in the Game Zones sections beginning on page 78. The use of electronic calls for coyote hunting is permitted statewide on private and WMA lands. Dog hunting for coyotes is allowed yearround on private lands statewide. Deer may not be hunted with dogs on any lands in Game Zones 1 & 2. On WMA lands in Game Zones 1 & 2 coyotes may not be hunted with dogs during still gun and muzzleloader hunts for deer or bear. The possession or transport of live coyotes is allowed only by permit from the SCDNR.
 
Ron said:
sponges aren't baits.
Its considered crual and malicious molestation of wildlife. The Yote eats the sponge it expands in their stomach, clogs their digestive path and they die a slow and painful death from constipation.
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Ahh got ya. I was thinking like deer wicks.
 
Im headed to my blind now. If one comes by Ill ask what kind off animal it's parents were.
 
@Loganwayne
The wolves that were introduced in Cade's Cove were wiped out by parvo. I had a nice talk with a park officer while there a few years ago.
I was very interested in the details as I had been to see red wolves on the coast.

The yotes here were not introduced purposely but came down the eastern seaboard from Canada over a few decades.
You are right, they are MUCH bigger than western yotes (which look like a good sized fox) and these eastern dogs run in groups.
Their vocalizations have some light howls but usually are yips and yowls.

I listened to them for about an hour Saturday night at our mountain place, they were having an orgy or a fight....

@Ron
The blood baits are made with burlap, never heard of using sponges. It is a bad way to treat anything and only should be done when all other controls have failed.
But, that said I am not for having my pets eaten, I have been there...

I took this photo of a young mama bear in Cade's Cove.
She woofed at me and ran me away shortly after this.
She had 2 cubs.

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We had a pack around here a while back, I think we talked about it somewhere else on here. Haven't seen or heard much of them lately, the rabbits are starting to show up more and our deer pop is getting thicker. I'm sure they have just moved along for the time being ....

That video out of Iron Station is pretty bad ass... Got a buddy of mine swears up and down he's seen a big black cat down on his family's property just outside of Macon GA... Some think he's full of shit but any things possible I guess....
 
This is what i found last week not 100 yards from the back door in charlotte city limits.
 

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