Chip, ok dug the box of crap out, definitly not leather, a rubber coated fabric of sorts.. Luckily both delaminated when they broke so i could get an acurate measurement..
#1 1" wide X 36" x 1/8"
#2 1" wide x 60" x 1/8"
Any tips/leads appreciated...
Thanks JB, i've scoured the net for anything and while they arnt terriibly rare there just isnt a lot out there... I hope to document my progress. Its all new to me... 
btw: here is the best site ive found so far, misc. old tool section but lots of good relivent info.. (saw a model A transmission on a lathe last week)
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=forum;f=11
and some pics for those who may have missed them before.
